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Hitlers Strange Sexual Activeties

Postby Willhelm Gruber II » Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:49 am

i did not know where else to put this so...

i was recently reading a book about Herr Shikle-gruber and it had some content about some strange sexual behaviour for example he would get his partner to urinate (pee) on him or spread crap all over his chest or he would lay down naked and make them kick and beat him with objects and all this, he was supposed to love
it also said that he Had a VERY LARGE ponography collection

can anyone confirm this or put it to rest

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Re: Hitlers Strange Sexual Activeties

Postby Terje » Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:22 am

Willhelm Gruber II wrote:i did not know where else to put this so...

i was recently reading a book about Herr Shikle-gruber and it had some content about some strange sexual behaviour for example he would get his partner to urinate (pee) on him or spread crap all over his chest or he would lay down naked and make them kick and beat him with objects and all this, he was supposed to love
it also said that he Had a VERY LARGE ponography collection

can anyone confirm this or put it to rest

thanks
-Willie


I can confirm that I have read something to that effect at some time, although I have forgotten the source. What you describe are practices not unknown in today's rich spectrum of erotic variety, and neither would it be unknown in Germany's very burlesque early post-ww1 period. As for his large collection, well...also a fairly normal behaviour, at least by today's standard ;D . What I am saying is that I for one am not shocked about that part of his life. Okay, it IS worh a chuckle.

A different story entirely is a recent one that hints of sexual abuse in his childhood by his father, something that would go far to explain his, to put it mildly, complicated personality. I do not recall the source of this story either.

By the way, the name was Schickelgruber, and was altered to Hitler by his father. BBC should be a fairly reliable source, that also describes his father as a domineering and strict father that would beat his children regularly.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/legacies/myths_leg ... le_4.shtml
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Postby German Born » Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:55 am

Some Guys Have all the Luck............ :D :D :D
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Postby sid guttridge » Fri Jul 14, 2006 6:56 am

Hi Guys,

All this sort of character assassination (as if Hitler, of all people, needed it!) is pure speculation and doesn't seem to be supported by any substantive evidence.

The inferences of psychiatrists notwithstanding, until it is supported by hard evidence, I would suggest that it is not worth pursuing.

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Postby Jock » Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:25 am

Hi,

Didnt a US team of psychiatrists do the first ever 'Character Profile' on Adolf sometime around 1941-43? I seem to remember seeing a TV show about it, and the team did conclude he had a bit of a mother fixation. Not really uncommon, when you consider his childhood illness's and general frailty (resulting in a strong mother/son bond, through the nursing process), and like Terje said, his unstable, violent father. His mother was /very/ protective of him as a child. (Interestingly, Stalin's childhood - what we know of it - follows along very similar lines)

He also had some fixation with his testicles, or losing them...Cant remember what the scoop with that was - mabye something to do with measles, or being hit in the testicles...I really cant recall.

Anyways, although its speculation, that sort of proven background could point to having some wierd sexual turn on's in later life. Sid, can you remember the program? On mabye 1-2 years ago, on C4 I think...I'll have a trawl around for some more information, I'm sure there is more to this story.

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Postby Rudi S. » Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:42 am

The saying, among us members of the FBB (Wolfsschanze), was that 1: Hitler had only one testicle and 2: Hitler was considered an asexual person.
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Postby pzrmeyer2 » Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:01 am

Hi Guys,

All this sort of character assassination (as if Hitler, of all people, needed it!) is pure speculation and doesn't seem to be supported by any substantive evidence.

The inferences of psychiatrists notwithstanding, until it is supported by hard evidence, I would suggest that it is not worth pursuing.

Cheers,

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100% concur. Simple character denigration to make a "bad" person look worse.

Similarly, I was recently on a tour inside one of the Berlin Luftschutzbunkers when the "historian" tour guide remarked that Hitler was a complete coward all of his life and needed help even committing suicide. When I brought up the fact that he was a double E.K. winner, awards not usually awarded to Gefreiters in WW1, as well as a dispatch runner, quite a dangerous position, both not typical attributes of a coward, I was looked upon with suspicion. However, I also think that my statement was met with silence was because it was not disputable.
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Postby Paulus II » Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:05 am

By far most (if not all) of the people that have met Hitler agree completely with Rudi S. So do I, based on all that I have read and having taken care in recognizing who wrote what.
The story of the 'degraded' sexual habits can, as far as I know, be traced to Otto Strasser. The former party member who had quit because Hitler wanted to stamp out the more Social stream in the Party to which he belonged. Otto himself fled to Austria and later to Canada while his brother Gregor was killed in The Night of the Long Knives. In an interview in Canada it was Strasser who told the media that Geli Raubal had once told him of Hitlers habits involving urine and the like.
Of course that may be true. There is no proof either way. But Strasser held an understandable grudge against Hitler and it may well be that he made it up to get back at Hitler long after his death.
Though I must say that I haven't read everything on the subject this is the best explanation for the existance of those stories.

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Postby Jock » Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:13 am

Hi Rudi,

Was that saying a joke, or what you all really thought?

I still find myself amazed that we can call on someone who has served so intimately with what we discuss. Again, Thanks for your contribution's Rudi.

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Postby Jez » Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:38 pm

The authors name didn't end in 'Berg' by any chance did it?

Seriously tho', i think such comments, although incredibly hilarious to me :D (sorry), simply remove direct impact of real Holocaust and genocidal crimes commited by this man and his henchmen.

Come on guys, lets keep it real and leave the s hit stirring (or smearing) to the people who aren't interested what's what.

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Postby Willhelm Gruber II » Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:00 pm

i found the book its called "World Famous Dictators" by Ian Schott
Chapter 8 Adolf Hitler: Revenge of a Failed Artist

"in Vienna Hitler showed an avid intrest in sex without ever finding a girl friend, it is at this point that some people belive that Hitler contracted syphilis from a jewish prostitute"

"he required young woman to urinate and deficate on him, a fact that was supported by severalsadly unidetified partners and his niece Geli Raubal"

im am not trying to make Hitler look worse, i genuinly want to know, it is not a part of history many people discuss, i would want to know if it was Churchill i dont care who it is i just want to know

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Postby Helmut Von Moltke » Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:20 pm

about Hitler and sex, etc, I read in the book "Fuehrer" by Allan Prior that he had "sexual games" with Geli Rabaul, but somehow this put him off about sex with Eva Braun. In a documentary I saw one of the Berghof's house cleaners/managers was interviewed, and he said that every morning he checked Hitler's and Eva's bedsheets for evidence of sexual activity, etc. Nothing was found. However, this led to speculation that Hitler could have been a homosexual as well. But Wilhelm Gruber II, which book was that you read in?

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Postby Rudi S. » Fri Jul 14, 2006 7:43 pm

Hi Jock,
Was that saying a joke, or what you all really thought?

I still find myself amazed that we can call on someone who has served so intimately with what we discuss. Again, Thanks for your contribution's Rudi.


It was not intended to be a joke - we (my fellow guards) really believed it to be the truth.

Jock, I appreciate your gratitude.

with best regards und Grüssen aus Texas,
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Postby Willhelm Gruber II » Fri Jul 14, 2006 10:06 pm

it is called "World Famous Dictators", Chaptor 8, Hitler:Revenge of a Failed Artist
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Postby sid guttridge » Sat Jul 15, 2006 3:35 am

Hi WGII,

I don't think Ian Schott is likely to prove much of an authority. His other books are "Gangsters" and "Medical Blunders". He is clearly one of those authors of cheap compilation books.

None of this stuff on Hitler's specific sexual practices seems to have any solid basis.

There are numerous writers, psychiatrists and documentary makers who have made a living out of this sort of speculation, but none of it seems to be based on high standards of evidence.

Unless the memoirs of Geli, Eva, pre-WWI Viennese prostitutes or internal Nazi snooping reports emerge, then it is likely to remain speculation as well.

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