VOLKSTURM pictures of interest

German auxiliary organizations 1919-1945.
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Hello!

I found this polish website (unfortunately I don't understand a word :( ) but it contains several good and interesting pictures on the Volksturm. For example older men in civilian clothes armed with nothing but Panzerschrecks...

http://wilk.wpk.p.lodz.pl/~whatfor/volksst.htm


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Those were some old looking guys there. I guess the reich was pretty desperate in the closing days.
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A far cry from the "glory days," eh?
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Hi Guys,

Those are particularly interesting photos because they appear to be of ethnic Germans from the Posen/Poznan region, which was in Poland over 1919-1939 and since 1945.

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Despite it was obviously a measure of desperation, if I was an allied tanker, I would be hesistant at entering a village defended by a few old men with Panzerschreks. As a military unit in prolonged combat, the Volksturm were clearly pathetic, but as one shot units that would kill a few allied soldiers, they could pull that off.

A few old men with Panzerschreks is still a rather dangerous adversary. 8)
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Also, many WWI vets, and people who in a militaristic society, probably always felt inadequate. Here's there chance, with additional atrocity based influences to fanatically motivate themselves. If I am not mistaken they caused alot Russian casualties in Berlin. I mean were talking about old men, invalids, etc. In the photo where they're lining up, I at first thought it was at a concentration camp, with inmates lining up. Very emaciated.
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Most of the time the VS did not engaged in any fighting on the Eastern Front. The few times they did, those units were wiped out. Guderian (or Manstein) asked if the VS could be kept away from any of the fightings. The older man could not stop the Russians after a few hours of combartraining. A lot of men of the Volksstuirm ended up as guards of prisoners (indeed concentration kamps) or were abandond by the other troops of the Wehrmacht. Some were luckier and were added to Wehrmacht divisions and moved westwards. The socalled Volkssturm divisionen ended up in chaos all over.

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I wonder if there were some guys in the Volksturm who distinguished themselves by putting Soviet tanks out of combat with their Panzerfaust. Is there a list of the ones who received medals or they were really that bad?

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Hello Benoit!

The most famous Volksturm-Battalionführer was Ernst Tiburzy who fought in Königsberg and recieved the Knight's Cross. For his story and picture go to the thread "Favorite Knight's Cross action page 3:

http://www.feldgrau.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6404

There were some other Knight's Cross holders in the Volksturm, I will get back with some info on them...


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Krollspell,

I have never heard of Ernst Tiburzy before. The info is really appreciated and of course if you have more info concerning the Knight Cross holder in the Volksturm don't hesitated to post it.

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There's a great looking portait of him in German Auxiliary forces, from the man at arms serie. It's the man!
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Post by Doktor Krollspell »

Hello again Benoit!

Other RKT in the Volksturm were:

Wilhelm Sitt, RK 07.02.1945. "Führer eines Btls. d. Kölner Volksturmes u. Abschnittsleiter (ehrenamtl.) im Gau-Org. Amt der NSDAP-Gauleitnung Köln-Aachen." As a note, Sitt recieved his RK for having defused hundreds of unexploded bombs. Found dead in Köln 07.03.1945.

Otto Herzog, RK 15.04.1945. SA-Obergruppenführer, Fhr. d. Volksturm-Einheiten i. d. Festung Breslau u. Fhr. einer Kampfgruppe. Herzog committed suicide in Breslau 06.05.1945.

Karl Packebusch, RK 26.04.1945. Führer eines Volksturm-Btl. in Berlin-Wedding. No info when, or if he died.

Source for information/quotes: Veit Scherzer "Ritterkreuzträger 1939-1945" (2005). There is a great portrait photo of Wilhelm Sitt in the Osprey Men-at-Arms book "Wehrmacht Auxiliary Forces" that Alex recommended.


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Another thing on Ernst Tiburzy. I remember seeing a video many years ago with the last official "Deutsche Wochenschau" newsreels from the winter and spring of 1945. When the fighting for Königsberg was featured, there was a interview/presentation kind of scene with Volksturm-Bataillonsführer Ernst Tiburzy with his newly awarded Knight's Cross and wearing a black eyepatch (it looked rather dramatic).

Hmm, I think I have to look for new copies... or in the best of worlds, DVD's!


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I wonder if there were some guys in the Volksturm who distinguished themselves by putting Soviet tanks out of combat with their Panzerfaust. Is there a list of the ones who received medals or they were really that bad?


They would have received the tankbadge, but there isn't a list (or lists) of people who received that badge.
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While I do recognize the bravery of some of the volkssturm, I do think that the whole concept of forcing old men & school boys to act as cannon fodder was among the worst criminal acts that the nazi regime committed during it's tenure.
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