U-Boat U802
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Derek Hicks
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U-Boat U802
Does anyone have pictures, information of U802. I would particularly like picture(s) of crew members especially Machinenobgefreiten Alema Labbuda. Thanks for your anticipated help.
Hi,
take a look there: Klemens Labudda - U 802 MaschOberGefr., * 17.1.1914
http://ubootwaffe.net/crews/crews.cgi
Greetings
Thomas
take a look there: Klemens Labudda - U 802 MaschOberGefr., * 17.1.1914
http://ubootwaffe.net/crews/crews.cgi
Greetings
Thomas
Hello Derek.
I only found one picture of U-802, she is second from the right.
This picture is from "Operation Deadlight", the sinking of captured german u-boats after the war. This photo was probably taken at Lisahally, Northern Ireland.
Unfortunately I didn't find anything on Labbuda, apart from the information given by Thomas. I did find some info on the boats commanders though:
"Soldat Diplomat. U- Boot- Fahrer, Zimmermann, Journalist, Ministerberater" by Rolf Steinhaus (commander 12 Jun, 1943 - 12 Dec, 1943) He transfered to training duties after his time on board U-802, "Stab Kommandierender Admiral der Unterseeboote / Ausbildungabteilung" 14 Dec, 1943 - 8 May, 1945.
Also an interview with her later commander Helmut Schmoeckel that can be found at:
http://www.uboat.net/men/schmoeckel.htm
U-802 did make long range patrols and operated in canadian waters. Good information on that can be found from:
"U-boats Against Canada: German Submarines in Canadian Waters" by Michael Hadley.
Hope that helps a bit.
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pic at:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/299 ... 0827WnVZom
I only found one picture of U-802, she is second from the right.
This picture is from "Operation Deadlight", the sinking of captured german u-boats after the war. This photo was probably taken at Lisahally, Northern Ireland.
Unfortunately I didn't find anything on Labbuda, apart from the information given by Thomas. I did find some info on the boats commanders though:
"Soldat Diplomat. U- Boot- Fahrer, Zimmermann, Journalist, Ministerberater" by Rolf Steinhaus (commander 12 Jun, 1943 - 12 Dec, 1943) He transfered to training duties after his time on board U-802, "Stab Kommandierender Admiral der Unterseeboote / Ausbildungabteilung" 14 Dec, 1943 - 8 May, 1945.
Also an interview with her later commander Helmut Schmoeckel that can be found at:
http://www.uboat.net/men/schmoeckel.htm
U-802 did make long range patrols and operated in canadian waters. Good information on that can be found from:
"U-boats Against Canada: German Submarines in Canadian Waters" by Michael Hadley.
Hope that helps a bit.
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pic at:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/299 ... 0827WnVZom
Hello again...
Should have looked a little closer at my bookshelf before searching for other sources
U-802 is mentioned in "Second U-boat Flotilla" by Lawrence Patterson a couple of times and describes her only sucess during the war. On 22 Mar 1944 she attacked and sunk the british steamer "Watuka", 1,621 GRT, from convoy SH125 in position 44-30N 62-51W off Halifax, Nova Scotia. Afterwards HMS "Anticosti" rescued 25 survivors of the 26 crew. U-802 arrived at Lorient and the 2nd u-boat flotilla on 2 May, 1944.
U-802 also fired on other shipping in that convoy and on shipping in convoy HX286. Claming five ships sunk during these actions, however the sinkings are not corroborated.
In June 1944 she operated in canadian waters and even the St Lawrence river. U-802 was being constantly harrased by aircraft and escorts. The canadians took their costal defence very seriously for the entire duration of the war. On 14 September 1944 she fired a T5 "Zaunkönig" at HMCS "Stettler" this torpedo detonated prematurely but Schmoeckel claimed it as a sinking. Getting visual confirmation on a T5 hit was hard due to the procedured involved in firing them.
Should have looked a little closer at my bookshelf before searching for other sources
U-802 is mentioned in "Second U-boat Flotilla" by Lawrence Patterson a couple of times and describes her only sucess during the war. On 22 Mar 1944 she attacked and sunk the british steamer "Watuka", 1,621 GRT, from convoy SH125 in position 44-30N 62-51W off Halifax, Nova Scotia. Afterwards HMS "Anticosti" rescued 25 survivors of the 26 crew. U-802 arrived at Lorient and the 2nd u-boat flotilla on 2 May, 1944.
U-802 also fired on other shipping in that convoy and on shipping in convoy HX286. Claming five ships sunk during these actions, however the sinkings are not corroborated.
In June 1944 she operated in canadian waters and even the St Lawrence river. U-802 was being constantly harrased by aircraft and escorts. The canadians took their costal defence very seriously for the entire duration of the war. On 14 September 1944 she fired a T5 "Zaunkönig" at HMCS "Stettler" this torpedo detonated prematurely but Schmoeckel claimed it as a sinking. Getting visual confirmation on a T5 hit was hard due to the procedured involved in firing them.
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U802
Many thanks to one and all for all the most useful information you have supplied. Most grateful to everyone. Thanks
Derek Hicks
Oxford, England
Derek Hicks
Oxford, England
Re: U-Boat U802
From www.uboat.net:
U-802
Type IXC/40
Ordered 7 Dec, 1940
Laid down 1 Dec, 1941 Seebeck, Bremen (werk 360)
Launched 31 Oct, 1942
Commissioned 12 Jun, 1943 Kptlt. Rolf Steinhaus
Commanders 12 Jun, 1943 - 12 Dec, 1943 Kptlt. Rolf Steinhaus
13 Dec, 1943 - 11 May, 1945 Kptlt. Helmut Schmoeckel
Career 4 patrols 16 May, 1943 - 31 Jan, 1944 4. Flottille (training)
1 Feb, 1944 - 30 Nov, 1944 2. Flottille (front boat)
1 Dec, 1944 - 8 May, 1945 33. Flottille (front boat)
Successes 1 ship sunk for a total of 1.621 GRT
Fate Surrendered at Loch Eriboll, Scotland, on 11 May, 1945; transferred to Lisahally for Operation Deadlight.
Operation Deadlight (post-war Allied operation, info)
Sunk on 31 Dec, 1945 in position 55.30N, 08.25W.
Attacks on this boat
28 Apr, 1944
The attack on 28 Apr, 1944 in the Bay of Biscay west of Nantes, France, in position 45.38N, 09.43W, by depth charges from a British Wellington aircraft (Sqdn. 612/W) was formerly credited with sinking the U-193.
This attack was actually against U-802 inflicting no damage.
(Sources: 1996-07-01, Axel Niestle)
19 Aug, 1944
Enroute to the St. Lawrence River the boat was ambushed by the USS Bogue hunter-killer group and damaged during the night by one of its aircraft with 3 depth charges. (Sources: Blair, vol 2, page 622)
28 Aug, 1944
Allied aircraft forced the boat to submerge but suffer no damages. (Sources: Blair, vol 2, page 622)
14 Sep, 1944
The boat fired a T-5 torpedo at a "destroyer" but missed and was in turn attacked by the escorts but managed to escape and finally entered Bergen, Norway on Nov 12. (Sources: Blair, vol 2, page 622)
4 recorded attacks on this boat.
Men lost from U-boats
Unlike many other U-boats, which during their service lost men due to accidents and various other causes, U-802 did not suffer any casualties (we know of) until the time of her loss.
U-802
Type IXC/40
Ordered 7 Dec, 1940
Laid down 1 Dec, 1941 Seebeck, Bremen (werk 360)
Launched 31 Oct, 1942
Commissioned 12 Jun, 1943 Kptlt. Rolf Steinhaus
Commanders 12 Jun, 1943 - 12 Dec, 1943 Kptlt. Rolf Steinhaus
13 Dec, 1943 - 11 May, 1945 Kptlt. Helmut Schmoeckel
Career 4 patrols 16 May, 1943 - 31 Jan, 1944 4. Flottille (training)
1 Feb, 1944 - 30 Nov, 1944 2. Flottille (front boat)
1 Dec, 1944 - 8 May, 1945 33. Flottille (front boat)
Successes 1 ship sunk for a total of 1.621 GRT
Fate Surrendered at Loch Eriboll, Scotland, on 11 May, 1945; transferred to Lisahally for Operation Deadlight.
Operation Deadlight (post-war Allied operation, info)
Sunk on 31 Dec, 1945 in position 55.30N, 08.25W.
Attacks on this boat
28 Apr, 1944
The attack on 28 Apr, 1944 in the Bay of Biscay west of Nantes, France, in position 45.38N, 09.43W, by depth charges from a British Wellington aircraft (Sqdn. 612/W) was formerly credited with sinking the U-193.
This attack was actually against U-802 inflicting no damage.
(Sources: 1996-07-01, Axel Niestle)
19 Aug, 1944
Enroute to the St. Lawrence River the boat was ambushed by the USS Bogue hunter-killer group and damaged during the night by one of its aircraft with 3 depth charges. (Sources: Blair, vol 2, page 622)
28 Aug, 1944
Allied aircraft forced the boat to submerge but suffer no damages. (Sources: Blair, vol 2, page 622)
14 Sep, 1944
The boat fired a T-5 torpedo at a "destroyer" but missed and was in turn attacked by the escorts but managed to escape and finally entered Bergen, Norway on Nov 12. (Sources: Blair, vol 2, page 622)
4 recorded attacks on this boat.
Men lost from U-boats
Unlike many other U-boats, which during their service lost men due to accidents and various other causes, U-802 did not suffer any casualties (we know of) until the time of her loss.