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by olboeter » Wed Jan 21, 2004 5:44 am
who was the best panzerleader in the war for you?
the best regiment?
the best strumbanfurher ?
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by Timo » Wed Jan 21, 2004 10:38 am
This question has been asked before. It is impossible to point out one man to be "the best".
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by Rob - WSSOB » Wed Jan 21, 2004 8:07 pm
best man?
best dressed?
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by sid guttridge » Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:21 am
Hi Olboeter,
Why the assumption that the best panzer leader was in the Waffen-SS?
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by Rob - WSSOB » Thu Jan 22, 2004 9:58 am
Since "panzer leader" = armored commander, how about General George Patton?
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by olboeter » Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:09 am
sorry , I only wanted to find the opinion of the people .
I am an agree wiht you , all soldiers were the best ........
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by Igorn » Sun May 16, 2004 11:05 am
In my opinion, the Russian Army clearly had the best tank forces and talented commanders in the World Waw II. I would name some of the Russian Tank leaders here who for sure were amongst the best during the war:
* Malinovsky
* Katukov
* Lelyushenko
* Rokossovsky
* Rotmistrov
I would also name a few German Tank Leaders who were respected enemies:
* Guderian
* Got
* Model
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by ericv » Mon May 17, 2004 1:57 am
Who is Got?
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by ericv » Mon May 17, 2004 2:00 am
Is that the guy mentioned on the belt maybe? (you know , from the company "Got(t) mit uns" the famous manufacturer of the german army belts?
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by Nibelung » Mon May 17, 2004 10:26 am
What about?
Rommel?
Kleist?
Kurt Mayer?
Jochen Peiper?
Manteuffel?
von Thoma?
not to mention all the tank aces...
In my opinion, germany had the biggest command strenght when it commes to tanks...
There are no desperate situations, there are only desperate people. - Heinz Guderian
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by Igorn » Wed May 19, 2004 9:26 pm
Eric,
Got is Herman Hott in Russian transcription. I agree that Rommel and Kleist were decent tank commanders but than I would also add few more Russian Tank leaders to my previos list who defenetrely were on the same level:
1. Rybalko
2. Vatutin
3. Potapov
4. Bagramyan
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by Timo » Thu May 20, 2004 1:33 am
Nibelung wrote: What about?
Rommel?
Kleist?
Kurt Mayer?
Jochen Peiper?
Manteuffel?
von Thoma?
When did Kurt Meyer command Panzer?
In my opinion Peiper didn't do that well as a "Panzer commander". That was mainly the task of the much underrated Werner Poetschke.
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by Timo » Thu May 20, 2004 1:34 am
Igorn wrote: 1. Rybalko
Very true, but he didn't do that good during the 1943 Charkow battles.
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by Igorn » Thu May 20, 2004 3:13 am
Timo,
Rybalko and his 3-d Gurd Russian Tank Army did extremely well at Kursk batlle and Dnepr River Battle in 1943 and than in operations in Ukrain in 1944, Germany and Chekhoslovakia in 1945.
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by Timo » Thu May 20, 2004 3:21 am
That's why I said very true apart from Charkow
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