What about yours...!
Michael (Ex-Viking...)
Nicknames...
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Nordwest
Nicknames...
My nickname is Nordwest, I live in Northern Germany, my place!
What about yours...!
Michael (Ex-Viking...)
What about yours...!
Michael (Ex-Viking...)
Hi Michael,
Since you've managed to get me somewhat confused about "Nordwest" and "Northern Germany":
Would that be northwestern Germany, like somewhere between Emden and Bremen, or the northern part of former West-Germany, like somewhere between Bremen and Flensburg?
Just curious
My nickname was thought up during an all-night drinkingbout some twenty years ago when I was still in the army and staying overnight at the barracks at Seedorf (nordwest or northern Germany?
) after having been in the field for about a week. I don't even recall the subject we were talking about (women or booze most likely) but apparantly it got me talking for more than an hour "like a true original apostle" as one of my mate's said who was immediately corrected by someone else that I was far too young to be the apostle Paul so that would make me a second generation apostle. Paulus II it has been since then. Now-a-days I only use it on the computer though since I lost contact with my drinkingbuddies pretending to be soldiers. 
Cheers, Paul
Since you've managed to get me somewhat confused about "Nordwest" and "Northern Germany":
Would that be northwestern Germany, like somewhere between Emden and Bremen, or the northern part of former West-Germany, like somewhere between Bremen and Flensburg?
Just curious
My nickname was thought up during an all-night drinkingbout some twenty years ago when I was still in the army and staying overnight at the barracks at Seedorf (nordwest or northern Germany?
) after having been in the field for about a week. I don't even recall the subject we were talking about (women or booze most likely) but apparantly it got me talking for more than an hour "like a true original apostle" as one of my mate's said who was immediately corrected by someone else that I was far too young to be the apostle Paul so that would make me a second generation apostle. Paulus II it has been since then. Now-a-days I only use it on the computer though since I lost contact with my drinkingbuddies pretending to be soldiers. Cheers, Paul
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Nordwest
Paul,
in an "earlier" thread I was insulted for using the nickname Nordwest as my personal nickname.
This nickname is not conc. to the well known german/dutch "Nordwest" unit, most of us might know about...
Emden / Bremen area is it, and I am far away, about being a "worshipper" of the Waffen-SS.
My home country: http://www.ammerland.de/
Regards to the Netherlands! (Holland)
(Where many of my forefathers were born...)
Michael
in an "earlier" thread I was insulted for using the nickname Nordwest as my personal nickname.
This nickname is not conc. to the well known german/dutch "Nordwest" unit, most of us might know about...
Emden / Bremen area is it, and I am far away, about being a "worshipper" of the Waffen-SS.
My home country: http://www.ammerland.de/
Regards to the Netherlands! (Holland)
(Where many of my forefathers were born...)
Michael
Hi Michael,
I understand what you mean about the insults. I used the Wolfsangel as avatar and received a not so friendly post about it. Changed it to my initial.
For me too goes that I do not view the Nazi-period as something good to be idolized or 'worshipped' as you say.
I had a look at the Ammerland-site and found it an interesting area that I have never visited but certainly will in the future. It is no more than a two-hour drive for me.
I did find it curious to find Wolfsangel in the shield of Gemeinde Wiefelstede. But of course it is just a letter in the rune-alfabet and existed for a thousand years before the SS took it for their own use.
Regards to Ammerland where part of my wife's family once lived!
Paul
I understand what you mean about the insults. I used the Wolfsangel as avatar and received a not so friendly post about it. Changed it to my initial.
For me too goes that I do not view the Nazi-period as something good to be idolized or 'worshipped' as you say.
I had a look at the Ammerland-site and found it an interesting area that I have never visited but certainly will in the future. It is no more than a two-hour drive for me.
I did find it curious to find Wolfsangel in the shield of Gemeinde Wiefelstede. But of course it is just a letter in the rune-alfabet and existed for a thousand years before the SS took it for their own use.
Regards to Ammerland where part of my wife's family once lived!
Paul
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Nordwest
Paulus, the Wolfsangel, and other rune symbols are very common here in Norddeutschland, you will find these runes on nearly every farmhouse older than 100-120 years, and, as you mentioned, for example, in the crest of the Gemeinde Wiefelstede the so called "Wolfsangel".
I do not no very much about the runes at all, this is a very complexe theme, if you are interested, I could share a few links, just let me know?
Regards
Michael
I do not no very much about the runes at all, this is a very complexe theme, if you are interested, I could share a few links, just let me know?
Regards
Michael
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Nordwest
There is a certain place, the Museumsdorf Cloppenburg
Link: http://www.museumsdorf.de/
This is a trip back in time, 100 years, 200 years, 300 years, and further...
You need at least two days, to even see the "basics".
About "Runen", more than you will take on film in 7 days!
Michael
Link: http://www.museumsdorf.de/
This is a trip back in time, 100 years, 200 years, 300 years, and further...
You need at least two days, to even see the "basics".
About "Runen", more than you will take on film in 7 days!
Michael
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Nordwest
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Hi Michael,
I would like some links about Runen!
I have a few good ones myself but they are all in Dutch, if you want I'll post them.
I find the history of the Germanic tribes a very interesting topic and read about it quit a bit. The Runen are still a mystery to me but that doesn't matter since even the specialists don't agree on their origin and exact use.
Probably they were derived from the Latin or Etruskan alfabet (the opinions vary and also Persian origins are suggested by some) and were transformed into patterns that were easier to carve into stone or wood. A probable explanation for the straight lines and the angles since that is easier to carve than round forms.
Some say they were introduced to Northern Europe by the Rhaetians, a tribe that used to live in the Alps and got an alfabet through contact with other Celtic tribes living in northern Italy who, in their turn, were in contact with the Etruscans and Latins. The problem with this explanation is that this must have happened before the Roman Empire reached northern Italy which happened around 200 BC and the oldest Runen are those found in Scandinavia which date from around 200 AD. That's a period of 400 years and there is no "track of runes" that leads from Italy to Scandinavia.
Another explanation is that the Runen were introduced in Scandinavia through tradecontacts between the Romans and the Scandinavians which occurred around the beginning of the First Century AD from the Limes (the northern border of the Roman Empire roughly running along the Rhein), that could account for the 'skipping' of such a large territory.
From Denmark and southern Norway and Sweden the use of Runen spread to the other tribes in Northern Germany and Holland (or Friesland rather) and with the migration of the Angeln and Sachsen to modern day Britain.
The original alfabet consisted of 24 symbols but through time and changing language the number of symbols started to vary. In England a version with 33 symbols is known while in Scandinavia the number of symbols was reduced to 16.
As to the use of the Runen the opinions once again vary a lot. Some say that they were mostly used by Holy Men and 'Noblemen' but others believe that they were far more widely known amongst the population and thus used in trade and navigation. Many inscriptions are of a nature (describing heroic deeds and in remembrance of special people) that would suggest a relatively widespread knowledge of Runen amongst the common people.
Well.......that's about all I know about the Runen alfabet though I do have some more information in a few books and thanks to the websites I mentioned earlier but my memory will only hold this much.
I'm looking forward to the sites you mentioned as any information is always most welcome!
Best regards,
Paul
I would like some links about Runen!
I have a few good ones myself but they are all in Dutch, if you want I'll post them.
I find the history of the Germanic tribes a very interesting topic and read about it quit a bit. The Runen are still a mystery to me but that doesn't matter since even the specialists don't agree on their origin and exact use.
Probably they were derived from the Latin or Etruskan alfabet (the opinions vary and also Persian origins are suggested by some) and were transformed into patterns that were easier to carve into stone or wood. A probable explanation for the straight lines and the angles since that is easier to carve than round forms.
Some say they were introduced to Northern Europe by the Rhaetians, a tribe that used to live in the Alps and got an alfabet through contact with other Celtic tribes living in northern Italy who, in their turn, were in contact with the Etruscans and Latins. The problem with this explanation is that this must have happened before the Roman Empire reached northern Italy which happened around 200 BC and the oldest Runen are those found in Scandinavia which date from around 200 AD. That's a period of 400 years and there is no "track of runes" that leads from Italy to Scandinavia.
Another explanation is that the Runen were introduced in Scandinavia through tradecontacts between the Romans and the Scandinavians which occurred around the beginning of the First Century AD from the Limes (the northern border of the Roman Empire roughly running along the Rhein), that could account for the 'skipping' of such a large territory.
From Denmark and southern Norway and Sweden the use of Runen spread to the other tribes in Northern Germany and Holland (or Friesland rather) and with the migration of the Angeln and Sachsen to modern day Britain.
The original alfabet consisted of 24 symbols but through time and changing language the number of symbols started to vary. In England a version with 33 symbols is known while in Scandinavia the number of symbols was reduced to 16.
As to the use of the Runen the opinions once again vary a lot. Some say that they were mostly used by Holy Men and 'Noblemen' but others believe that they were far more widely known amongst the population and thus used in trade and navigation. Many inscriptions are of a nature (describing heroic deeds and in remembrance of special people) that would suggest a relatively widespread knowledge of Runen amongst the common people.
Well.......that's about all I know about the Runen alfabet though I do have some more information in a few books and thanks to the websites I mentioned earlier but my memory will only hold this much.
I'm looking forward to the sites you mentioned as any information is always most welcome!
Best regards,
Paul