Inferior Treads on Leopard II Panzer

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Inferior Treads on Leopard II Panzer

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I was noticing that much like the flimsy British tanks, the German Leopard also has very narrow treads when compared to the Abrams tanks. Why is this the case?
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Because in Germany tank have to ride over regular roads more often, to and from training-grounds. And no use for a lower ground-pressure????????????????????????

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One would conclude that Wider tracks would ammount to lower ground pressure. So this seems unreasonable unless narrowed only for train transport.
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The ground pressure of the Leopard 2 is 9.3kg/cm2, which is a perfectly acceptable figure...

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Would the gound pressure be lessened by wider tracks? Wouldn't that be MORE "perfectly acceptable"?
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I have tried to find the exact width of both tanks, but failed. From what I can see from pictures, it seems to me that there is not much differens between the two. Could someone please give us some facts and figures so that we can compare them directly?
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Could it not be so that the requirements for both tanks are different. The German High Command in WW2 might take in consideration the condition of possible battlefields (for example; on the eastern front). The modern German Bundeswehr might have other demands, because they are not in the process of waging war. In the modern European armies peace-keeping is more the main reason for their existence. On these mission heavy battle-tanks ar not an important part of the mission.

Just an idea, of course.

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Post by Christian Ankerstjerne »

Wider tracks would give lower groud pressure (in general), however if making the tracks much wider the interior must either be more crammed, or the tank must be wider...

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It seems like the Tiger I and II had wider tracks and thus had lower gound pressure. Agreed, disagreed?
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Das_Reich wrote:It seems like the Tiger I and II had wider tracks and thus had lower gound pressure. Agreed, disagreed?
I reckon so, DR, but don't forget that these "big cats" paid a hefty price in over-complication by having both wide "battle-tracks" and narrow "transport-tracks". Imagine the time needed to ready the vehicles for combat or rail transport.

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Makes sense, but what if the Germans try a reconquer the land taken from them after world war one and two? Then they may be in Russia again and with narrow tracks!
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DR, no matter how hard I gaze into my crystal ball, I can't see Germany embarking on a new Drang nach Osten in the near future. If such did occur, it would happen in the far future.

If I see it happen in my lifetime, I'll be utterly astonished.

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Paul thats what most people said after the "war to end all wars" so don't be too surprised WHEN it happens.
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And don't be surprised when you are put into a straight jacket, Neo-Nazi.
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Stefan wrote:And don't be surprised when you are put into a straight jacket, Neo-Nazi.
Neo nazi? Check yourself sir. I am actually a Libertarian.
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