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[Helmut Von Moltke]

Hello moderators,

Over the past few months, some people have been posting stalinist apologia, attacking veterans, etc, thus sometimes drawing aggressive replies by me, etc, and making veterans more reluctant to visit Feldgrau unfortunately. Could we please correct this by deleting anything like that, etc, so there are no more problems, and no need to reply, just as neo nazi or denialist comments are deleted? Since there would be no more arguments and members can get back to discussing the MILITARY aspects of the German armed forces instead, and allow flow of more valuable information than fights.

Best Regards.

K

[Paulus II]

Once again you seem to think that you must react to anything that you do not agree with.

drawing aggressive replies by me

You reply aggresively by your own free will. Do not blame others for your breaking of the forumrules.

and no need to reply

There is no NEED to reply other than your personal need to start fights.

get back to discussing the MILITARY aspects of the German armed forces

And how wellsourced, unbiased and infrmed your contributions have been. LMAO

Paul

[Helmut Von Moltke]

There is no NEED to reply other than your personal need to start fights.

I don't voluntarily like fights. What I cannot stand though is people posting Stalinist apologia, being armchair generals in front of veterans and posting anti German agenda at free will. It's like how any of us would respond to a stupid anti semitic neo nazi, whom the agitators try to smear whoever opposes them as.

Frankly, I don't know why the Stalinist apologia is put up by many members. Just remember: While undoubtedbly Hitler killed in his millions and nazism was an extremly negative ideology, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot murdered in their tens of millions. They were the balck death of the 20th century. Yet the agitators ignore the fact, and try to switch it the other way round. Why don't they go to a communist forum to do it instead?

K

[Rajin Cajun]

Is this directed at me? If so I have never once apologized or watered down Stalin's deeds. You just don't like it because your an illiterate snob who can't read through the recently released Soviet Archives that disprove 95% of the US Cold War Propaganda.

[Paulus II]

If you do not voluntarily like fights then why are you involved in 90% of all fights?
Here's a quote from a little while ago made by you:

It's a typical tactic of your allies to post off topic inflamatory comments, thus provoking a reply from me, pzrmeyer2, or PK, which gets the thread locked.

And there is another one that I can't find now but the gist of it is that Sid was wasting your time by posting things to which you are forced to react and thus getting the thread closed again.

You lay the blame for fights and closed threads entirely beside yourself and solely with your opponents, while your behaviour really DOES make you at least part of the problem! As we say in Dutch: where two fight two have guilt.
This behaviour from your side only makes things worse. Even when your condescending tone does not spark off a fight in the first place.
Learn to straighten your back, raise your chin and dare to ignore what doesn't suit you.

Finally:

Just remember: While undoubtedbly Hitler killed in his millions and nazism was an extremly negative ideology, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot murdered in their tens of millions

I am very well aware of that. Do NOT patronize me!

Paul

[Helmut Von Moltke]

The same people who try to get the other "Venting" thread locked are doing the same here. You see everyone, they don't want themselves fully revelead, and try to deny the accusations.

Is this directed at me? If so I have never once apologized or watered down Stalin's deeds. You just don't like it because your an illiterate snob who can't read through the recently released Soviet Archives that disprove 95% of the US Cold War Propaganda.

a classic insult, but I'm not even offended. You wouldn't say the same if you or your family was a victim of communism. Easy excuse there by the way. Reminds me of David Irving.

Paul. I have admitted to being part of the problem. However you keep on trying to clean the agitator's reputations.

I am very well aware of that.

Then why do you say that replying to Soviet denialism if flaming then? I'm sure you wouldn't say the same if Ernst Zundel went on Feldgrau, would you?

K

[Paulus II]

Then why do you say that replying to Soviet denialism if flaming then?

I did not say that.

All I am saying is you should stop calling everyone that does not agree with you an agitator and insulting them in the process.

Again....do not invent what I did or didn't say!

The same people who try to get the other "Venting" thread locked are doing the same here. You see everyone, they don't want themselves fully revelead, and try to deny the accusations.

LMAO and resting my case.

Paul

[Helmut Von Moltke]

yawn..

The enemies of free speech, the agitators, managed to get the "Venting" thread locked. No doubt they would try to come to this thread and agitate more in order you get it locked again. It is dying, as they flock to this thread to "like a vulture to a dead animal".

here is a list of things the agitators subscribe to on this forum, and post simirarily to.

1. Peiper and Rudel were cowards.
2. Guy Sajer was a fake.
3. The Waffen-SS were weak, cowardly troops who surrendered en masse
4. All Foreign volunteers were traitors
5. German POWs were well treated in Soviet Gulags
6. The Red Army was brilliant at fighting and never wasted manpower needlessly.
7. Stalin was a great leader who loved his people and prepared to give them democracy before he was assasinated by the NKVD.
8. Not many Ukranians and Russians died under Stalin.
9. The whole of Eastern Germany was always part of Poland.
10. Germany was founded on killing Poles.
11. The veterans on this site are all posers and are probably primary school mates of 17 SS.
12. Der Untergang was real historical footage of Hitler.

I rest my case.

K

[Rajin Cajun]

Your such a goddamn tool Hvm. I'm not even a communist or leftist for Christ's sakes you blabbering fool. I'm a person who has taken a profound interest in the Soviet state and actually studied it unlike your asanine babbling that pukes out the self-taught anti-Communist line. I've been quite clear about my feelings for Stalin he was the right man for the right time to help the USSR crush the Nazis. Of course you wouldn't know that because I'm sure you couldn't even list the ideological differences between Leon Trotsky and Iosef Stalin.

As for your snide remarks about the USSR I dare you to actually read the recently released files and open your eyes a little instead of taking the History Forcefed course.

Since your so "keen" on my political affiliations I guess I will actually give you my real views. I'm a Socialist Economically but in the actual execution of Goverment I'm a nationalist republican (An actual republic not the joke of a party.".

Honestly I'm going to stop coming here with idiots running the asylum its a waste of my time and this forum can longer help me in any research of the Second World War anymore. Oh well I'll hit the books see you guys some other time.

[Commissar D, the Evil]

Raijin, my friend, be patient. The site will improve. As annoying as some folk's opinions might be, it is not fair to either to yourself or to the forum to simply leave. If you do that, than the few "off the wall" members win and the vast majority of us folks lose.

Look at the vast number of posts and the serious historical effort that went into them! All of this cannot be condemned because we have a few members who don't respect that this is site dedicated to history, not opinion!

Best,
David

[Torquez]

9. The whole of Eastern Germany was always part of Poland.

Nope, only some parts of DDR were part of Poland in Middle Ages.

Germany was founded on killing Poles.

Nope, but Prussia which was creator of modern German state, was a state based on genocide of native Prussian population, and a power based on annexation of Polish territory.
Bismarck and the Foundation of the German Empire
James Wycliffe Headlam:

"The Polish question is to us a question of life and death," he said to Sir Andrew Buchanan. There were two parties among the Poles; the one, the extreme Republican, wished for the institution of an independent republic; the other would be content with self-government and national institutions under the Russian Crown; they were supported by a considerable party in Russia itself. Either party if successful would not be content with Russian Poland; they would demand Posen, they would never rest until they had gained again the coast of the Baltic and deprived Prussia of her eastern provinces. The danger to Prussia would be greatest, as Bismarck well knew, if the Poles became reconciled to the Russians; an independent republic on their eastern frontier would have been dangerous, but Polish aspirations supported by the Panslavonic party and the Russian army would have been fatal

(Bismarck) has taught that it is the duty of Germany to use all the power of the State for crushing and destroying the Polish language and nationality; the Poles in Prussia are to become Prussian, as those in Russia have to become Russian. A hundred years ago the Polish State was destroyed; now the language and the nation must cease to exist.
It is a natural result of the predominance of Prussia in Germany. The enthusiasm for Poland was not unnatural when the centre of gravity of Germany was still far towards the West. Germany could be great, prosperous, and happy, even if a revived Poland spread to the shores of the Baltic, but Prussia would then cease to exist and Bismarck has taught the Germans to feel as Prussians.

Cheers.

[Hans]

Nothing new here, think I'll look somewhere else.

- Hans

[phylo_roadking]

Torquez, I can fully understand why you posted that; unfortunately you need to reread Kevin's post - by posting it here and now....you've sorta confirmed what he was saying. His point wasn't really about the content - more about the how when and where material is posted and by who. You'll notice none of the "others" he's so very obviously referring to posted anything so as not to prove his point.....

[Commissar D, the Evil]

be patient.

I stand by that.....

Best,
~D, the EviL

[Helmut Von Moltke]

I'm a Socialist Economically but in the actual execution of Goverment I'm a nationalist republican (An actual republic not the joke of a party.".

so you're a national socialist? LOL!

I've been quite clear about my feelings for Stalin he was the right man for the right time to help the USSR crush the Nazis. Of course you wouldn't know that because I'm sure you couldn't even list the ideological differences between Leon Trotsky and Iosef Stalin.

There is a difference, I know. Trotsky was murdered by Stalin's agents in Mexico by a pickaxe in the head. Hoever I'm holding my fire now. Express yourself more for the moment, if you wish.

K