Bad Hollywood Idea

Bittrich · Post by **Bittrich** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:13 am

I do believe that Hollywood is trying too hard especially the Sci Fi channel. Last night I watched SS Doomtrooper. It sort of was a mix of the Wolfenstein games and the Dirty Dozen movie, but ended up being quite lame. The plot was about an evil German scientist (original.... not) using radiation to create a Frankenstein like monster in a secret lab in France. A special force type mission is planned to take out the lab. From there the movie sucked. A T-34 was used as a Panter tank. The tank fired point blank at the monster with no effect, he was blown up in a depot and finally electricuted.

Please feel free to comment or add any other bad movies with a WWII theme that started off with promise, but half way through it you realized that you wasted an hour of your life or worse yet two hours of you life.

Helmut Von Moltke · Post by **Helmut Von Moltke** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:04 am

What junk!

another is the movie "What eagles dare", where a few Allied commandos under Clint Eastwood and Richard Burton drop into some mysterious Bavarian castle held by "elite"

Alpenkorps and SS troops. Real unrealistic, how they gun down so much German troops, which according to probably Alpenkorps and SS standards, would have been trained well. Also, the bit about the Allies general being held in the castle is quite unrealistic, considering is this sort of thing happened it would all be in the history books.

I'm sure that there are many other smaller movies like this....

Kevin

panzerschreck1 · Post by **panzerschreck1** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:23 am

There are many, especially the older ones!

Allied forces fighting german forces, a machine gun mowes down hundreds of germans, a grenade is thrown and hundreds of germans die,
if the germans toss a grenade only a few allied soldiers die , or the grenade is thrown back and yet again a hundred germans die!....

TimoWr · Post by **TimoWr** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:23 am

Helmut Von Moltke wrote:Also, the bit about the Allies general being held in the castle is quite unrealistic, considering is this sort of thing happened it would all be in the history books.

I just watched the teletubbies. Very unrealistic. If such creatures actually existed it would be in all the newspapers. In other words: don't bash plain fiction amusement for historical inaccuracy. Or do you also watch "Allo, Allo" that way?

Helmut Von Moltke · Post by **Helmut Von Moltke** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:25 am

hi, Timo.

The teletubby classic child program could hardly be compared to a war movie. And that war movie is diffrent, as it gives the wrong impression to people of German soldiers, who they think are just "things" mown down, like the portrayal in the movie, and not as human beings. Some inaccurate entertainment is ok, but not to the point where the innaccuracy changes how real people fought and died. The negative effects of Hollywood, you see.

Kevin

Tom Houlihan · Post by **Tom Houlihan** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:03 am

Danke, Bittrich! I had seen it on the schedule, and wanted to watch it out of (morbid?) curiosity. I ended up catching a few parts of it. Lame works. I woulda used 'weak.'

It did look like the costume department made a decent effort, though, but I wasn't able to pay as much attention as I wanted.

phylo_roadking · Post by **phylo_roadking** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:02 am

But NONE of them surpass THAT episode of the original Star Trek series LMAO

(Lost in Spcae, the Time Tunnel etc. ALL did the same - if there was a movie being shot on a nearby lot or soundstage, the costumes were grabbed for a few days! The old British UFO series was far better, they actually PLACED it in a film studio! Aliens getting chased round the set of every British sitcom or Hammer movie you ever recognised!)

phylo

TimoWr · Post by **TimoWr** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:10 am

Helmut Von Moltke wrote:And that war movie is diffrent, as it gives the wrong impression to people of German soldiers, who they think are just "things" mown down, like the portrayal in the movie, and not as human beings.

Does it matter? That's Hollywood for you. Get used to it.

Helmut Von Moltke wrote:Some inaccurate entertainment is ok, but not to the point where the innaccuracy changes how real people fought and died. The negative effects of Hollywood, you see.

Are you just as sensitive about the Russians killed in Rambo III? I would not compare any of the soldiers in such movies with real people. They are simple "the bad guys", regardless of the uniform they are wearing. What's next, objections against the way the German pilot is killed in a tunnel in Indiana Jones' Last Crusade? German pilots were not really that stupid you know

Rolf Steiner · Post by **Rolf Steiner** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:08 pm

which reminds, me, the way they treat those security guards in star trek, pfff!

Crap war films: Sven Hassel's Wheels of Terror and the 'sequel' to Cross of Iron both spring to mind, although I'm sure many worse were made in Cinecitta during the 1970s. Frauleins in uniform anyone??

phylo_roadking · Post by **phylo_roadking** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 12:14 pm

saod the decurity guys - theres not a single crapper on the whole bloody ship!

FIVE years???

phylo

Rolf Steiner · Post by **Rolf Steiner** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:27 pm

they'd lay down newspaper in the transporters then beam it down to the nearest convenient planet!

phylo_roadking · Post by **phylo_roadking** » Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:43 pm

"Ventilate, Mister Scott...."

phylo

Handzar · Post by **Handzar** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:32 am

heh, Dirty Dozen was cool, pretty stupid but cool and funny.

Rajin Cajun · Post by **Rajin Cajun** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:07 pm

I find Dirty Dozen humorous as well though I am pretty sure it wasn't intended to be that way. I could never figure out why the fat guy snapped and went crazy.

Now about the evils of Star Trek...of course this is coming from a Trekkie.

I mean Honestly didn't Captain Kirk remind you of Stalin? He played the pretty boy and let all his red shirts get slaughtered. I mean come on like it was really a coincidence that Kirk went the right way? Lies! Kirk sending those poor boys into a human wave charge so they would distract and he could hog the glory.

Handzar · Post by **Handzar** » Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:31 pm

I have a friend who finds the idea interesting. I feel better in the present thank you.