Saving Private Ryan: Waffen-SS Uniform Help

MG-Schutze · Post by **MG-Schutze** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:47 pm

Hello fellow members, it's my first time posting here, nice to meet you all

Can you please tell me guys, what is the specs of the uniforms worn by the Waffen-SS soldiers at the last part of the movie ? Like can you please tell me:

1. Which SS branch are they from ?
2. What's the type of uniform they are wearing ? (M38 Oak, etc.)
3. Can you guys please tell me where online I can purchase the whole uniform & trousers set worn by the SS soldiers in SPR ?

Thank you so much for reading ! Looking forward for your reply !

MikeWindheuser · Post by **MikeWindheuser** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:37 pm

Hi

Sorry I have not seen Saving private Ryan in a long time so I do not know the unit or uniform although I would suggest that, since it is in 1944, the chaps would be wearing a mixture of plane tree and oakleave pattern camo and any tunic from the M1936-M1944. This is a good site for ordering german uniforms: http://www.richardaunderwood.com/ . I hope you find what you are looking for, I want to buy a uniform but since I am only 15 I do not have the money.

Mike.

Herr Doktor · Post by **Herr Doktor** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:18 pm

Hello,

Much of the wardrobe uniform items for the movie itself were obtained from At The Front. Their website can be found here:

http://www.atthefront.com/

After SPR was made, At The Front sold off lots of interesting uniform pieces used in the SPR movie, I'm sure they have all been sold by now but identical items can still be had from them.

Another place to check out is SM Wholesale, SS especially for camo items:

http://www.smwholesale.com/

I have not seen SPR for a long time, either. But I remember a divisional insignia being on the tiger tanks in the village, it was either the 12th SS HJ or 1st LSSAH - I don't recall which. But if you watch the movie again and check the divisional insignia that you see against the ones found on this website, that will give your answer about which SS unit it was.

Best,

HD

Jones · Post by **Jones** » Wed May 11, 2005 12:11 am

here is the man from the bunker. (wehrmacht)
http://www.freewebs.com/team-pwnage/ger ... amboat.jpg

and here is the soldier from the house (ss)
http://www.freewebs.com/team-pwnage/ger ... fen-ss.jpg

You should be able to see the difference

Steppenwolf · Post by **Steppenwolf** » Wed May 25, 2005 3:09 pm

I would not trust the uniforms in saving private ryan at all.

For instance, the Americans identify them as 1st SS panzer, thus they'd be with the LAH. Also, they would have to be Liebstandarte as of the two SS units in the area they were the only one with a Spz.Abt- thus the tiger tanks.

However, if one were to analyze the uniforms, one would notice that the tank drivers in particular are wearing Allgermeine (sp?) uniforms, and the smock being used by the majority of the infantrymen were much more prevalent with the 12th SS Hitlerjugend.

PaulW · Post by **PaulW** » Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:54 am

I thought were were told they were from Das Reich in the movie?

Helmut Von Moltke · Post by **Helmut Von Moltke** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:58 am

PaulW wrote:I thought were were told they were from Das Reich in the movie?

the book said that they were from Das Reich. But anyway, the book and movie needed way more historic research.

helmut

max wiedl 3./SS Pz.Pi.Btl · Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:57 am

this was the first time a major film production didnt bother with "enemy extras" it got a reenactment group to do it for them. the british second battle group (SBG ) they came and were equiped with uniforms and isignia of "das reich" for the film but usually "Grenadiers of the 1.SS.Panzer Division Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler"
i wont bore you... visit their site!

http://www.sbg1.mistral.co.uk/frameset.htm

Helmut Von Moltke · Post by **Helmut Von Moltke** » Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:16 am

max wiedl 3./SS Pz.Pi.Btl wrote:this was the first time a major film production didnt bother with "enemy extras" it got a reenactment group to do it for them. the british second battle group (SBG ) they came and were equiped with uniforms and isignia of "das reich" for the film but usually "Grenadiers of the 1.SS.Panzer Division Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler"
i wont bore you... visit their site!

http://www.sbg1.mistral.co.uk/frameset.htm

oh yea, in the Tiger tank scene in the movie where a SS Panzer commander in black uniform points around and gives commands, he has cuff title. I don't really remember what the cufftitle was.... was it Das Reich? And also I reas somewhere, that Tigers had insignia of 1. SS Panzer Korps, really all messed up. And Das Reich division was not in Normany at the time this fake battle was supposed to take place in, so this movie is really... inaccurate. Just my 2 cents....

helmut

max wiedl 3./SS Pz.Pi.Btl · Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:12 am

i think if you read the account of the filming from the reenacters they say the same thing... also were very upset about all having to have cropped hair and not a more realistic "period" style cut and being used as a bias political statement rather than historical fact... apparently!

Helmut Von Moltke · Post by **Helmut Von Moltke** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:21 pm

max wiedl 3./SS Pz.Pi.Btl wrote:i think if you read the account of the filming from the reenacters they say the same thing... also were very upset about all having to have cropped hair and not a more realistic "period" style cut and being used as a bias political statement rather than historical fact... apparently!

yea lol, the skinhead haircut thing

helmut

Langemark · Post by **Langemark** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:36 pm

I think the uniforms of the american soldiers are exact, but they dont care much about the detail of the enemy uniforms. There aren't so much people who know details about the german uniforms ... they must just look like germans - greenish color and that charismatic helmet. In "Brothers in Arms" the detail (and authenticy) is a lot better, i think.

Helmut Von Moltke · Post by **Helmut Von Moltke** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:19 am

Langemark wrote:I think the uniforms of the american soldiers are exact, but they dont care much about the detail of the enemy uniforms. There aren't so much people who know details about the german uniforms ... they must just look like germans - greenish color and that charismatic helmet. In "Brothers in Arms" the detail (and authenticy) is a lot better, i think.

is "brothers in arms" a movie or a game?

Alteweier · Post by **Alteweier** » Thu Apr 20, 2006 5:43 pm

Its a game about a squad from the 101st airborne.

Spandau · Post by **Spandau** » Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:43 am

Avete,

After looking at screenshots from Saving Private Ryan, I would agree that they are Das Reich soldiers who have the amazing power to teleport.

Also, I am sure this has been pointed out before, but I noticed something. That Tiger is not a tiger at all! It is a disguised T-34! Look at the bogie wheel configuration!

Valete,

-Spandau