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Reb wrote:I was reviewing an OOB for Normandy (after 1 August 44) and found there to be 7 tank brigades and 5 divisions (incl Polish and Cnd) which seems to me to add up to a conservative estimate of at least
2000-2500 tanks in the British sector alone.
The Americans had seven tank divs (incl French) and gosh knows how many independent battlions and groups. I should think a number of tanks then at least equal to the British.
Write off losses and add in spares (or in the pipeline) and this begins to sound a lot like nearly 5000 tanks!
Can that be right? I can't even concieve of that many tanks - plus all the 'B' echelon stuff - I can't imagine where they'd put them all in a narrow bridgehead like Normandy. Plus there were beaucoup Tank Destroyers and SP guns.
Am I off on this estimate? Or did the allies really have those kind of numbers? It certainly puts things into perspective when considering those ten or so panzer divisions with what, 1200 - 1500 tanks and SPs.
Note that the estimate is based on the armour ashore at roughly the time of Totalize.
The US had around 30 SP TD Bns in Normandy at the end of Aug, and the British/Canadians about 8-10 Bn equivalents. At 36 TDs in a US Bn and 24 in a Commonwealth Bn, that's about another 1300 SPGs authorized.Reb wrote:I don't think those numbers would include sp Tank Destroyers. There were numerous battalions of those floating around.
The WEs shown on this site are wrong in that they are incomplete because they don't show the SP Field regts with their 13 OP Tanks. The OP tanks held as pool by Armd Bde HQs were for use by towed field regiments.michael kenny wrote:Try
http://web.archive.org/web/200104100047 ... 1agt-1.htm
From the excellent site
http://web.archive.org/web/200010070504 ... index.html
As of 20 August 1944 ETOUSA had on hand:Martin Schenkel wrote:The US had around 30 SP TD Bns in Normandy at the end of Aug, and the British/Canadians about 8-10 Bn equivalents. At 36 TDs in a US Bn and 24 in a Commonwealth Bn, that's about another 1300 SPGs authorized.Reb wrote:I don't think those numbers would include sp Tank Destroyers. There were numerous battalions of those floating around.
Yep.Qvist wrote:Etousa, isn't that another one of those Tunisian towns that are so dashed tricky to locate?As of 20 August 1944 ETOUSA had on hand:
hehe yeah but they had experience from russia! :)Reb wrote:When I was a child my grandfather took me to a place called letterkenny in Pennsylvania. There were Sherman tanks as far as the eye could see.
It must of have been intimidating to the Germans to realize they simply couldn't knock enough of the things out to matter.