"Let me entertain you....."

[Frederick L Clemens]

This is some really weird feces going on! Thank you for tearing the lid off this mess - too bad it can't be flushed, though.

[phylo_roadking]

You want weirdness? How about a Forum Section entitled "The Normalization of beliefs and behaviours"...

Just one thread in it... http://projectgermanveteran.aceboard.co ... happen.htm

Some "low points"....

I think its necessary to define those responsible for targeting eugenic enemies before entering into debate about how the members of the SS carried it out.
Hitler, Goring, Heydrich and Himmler weren't the only ones. A lot of highly respected educated people who financed the Third Reich were calling for this too.

I guess I get a little frustrated because when the discussion about the “hows” and “whys” of genocide are brought up it’s only the German SS soldier that’s made to answer the questions

After all, not only did Germany want this solution, the rest of Europe did too.

Was there a difference between the SS who poured the gas in the chambers and the railroad engineers who drove the trains to the camps? What makes someone do those things? How about promotions, medals and incentives? Good rewards for bad actions? Remember that National Socialism removed the class system. Now average guys could become generals

What motivates a man to do these things? First let us dismiss the idea that such things are only capable by a former member of the SS

Objectively, the evidence doesn't add up to what the Allies told us. We heard about gas chambers and massive burial pits but the photos taken by the Allies show hundreds and sometimes thousands of corpses lying out in the open. Not in gas chambers and not in pits. With my simple medical background its fair to say those bodies were probably those who perished from typhus or other diseases, perhaps those who died from being given lethal doses of nutrition by the liberating Allies.

"too bad it can't be flushed, though" - yeah, I've felt slightly grubby myself in the last few days, having to root around in this guy's mind...

[redneck.]

Regarding the porrible number of fakes on the website, I can with some certainty tell you that most of the women on the board introduce yourself seem to be fake, and another thing, they all have husbands in Iraq, almost every single women on the board has a husband from Iraq, the guy's not even creative enough to throw in an Afghanistan in there every once in awhile, another thing I noticed was the times that the people "introduced themselves", let me give you an example, page 14 of Introduce Yourself starting with Valerie (3rd down) introduced herself at 4:41 on 3/23, Crazy Brit at 4:45 same day, Jane at 4:48, Kate at 4:51, (Harker takes break), Ret Navy at 12:50 Am on 3/24, Sniper Fox at 12:58 same day. Hawk at 1:00, Malinda at 1:06, Coleman at 1:09, Tankers Chink at 1:15, Sailor at 1:18, then we have a legit looking Tinkerhell, followed by Delilah at 1:18 AM on 3/25, Stormtrooper at 1:26 same day, Socrates at 1:32, Sandra at 1:39, Kathy at 1:41

So what can we deduce from this information, there are 3 possibly legit people on this page, the rest are obvious fakes, and believe me, this isn't the only page where one can find this trend, also it takes Harker an average of 4 minutes to find a random picture online and write a sentence about it, one thing I do wonder is if Kari Byron from Discovery Channels Mythbusters really posted on the site looking for info about WW2 myths (page 12), maybe she should do a piece on Harkers books staring phylo

[phylo_roadking]

This has also been noticed for those long detailed answers to queries. Someone posts a one-sentence question....and someone answers with thirty lines of typing...in 90 seconds or so...with NO spelling or punctuation errors???

How come they just happened to be sitting waiting with JUST that answer in Word or Notepad - or with their cursor on the "Submit" button - waiting for someone to ask?

[Frederick L Clemens]

Is Harker someone with multiple personality disorder or what?

Just sit back and consider what he is doing and whether it could truly fit into a logical approach to ANY kind of plan.

If he is trolling for true German veterans, he is doing so in English which seems like it would have an absurdly low rate of success. He has already invented two vets, so why would he need any REAL ones? He can just keep inventing fake ones.

If he is trying to peddle fake German vet stories, he is doing so with a minimal level of knowledge that insured that his books would be revealed as fakes fairly quickly. This is the age of the internet where cooperation and cross-checking are so much faster and easier. He had something of a good game going with Directive 19 but as soon as the second book came out, the fabrication pattern revealed it self too easily. Does he think that a fake website will overcome the postings of expert reviewers on Amazon?

If he is trying to peddle some kind of White Power/Hoax of the 20th Century stuff, why would he risk pissing off the Third Reich history crowd? Let's face it, there would certainly be some people among the history buffs who might buy into some of his arguments at least for the sake of playing devil's advocate - but not if he plays them for fools at the same time.

[Annelie]

Mr Harker from what I have read and understand has spent a considerable amount of
time in all these endeavors.

Is it all about money or recognition?

[phylo_roadking]

Does he think that a fake website will overcome the postings of expert reviewers on Amazon?

Yes. I think he honestly thinks if he can invent "experts" they can outweigh REAL military historians in any argument!!!

He can just keep inventing fake ones

Let me show you - THIS! From his profile on All-Experts...

Past/Present Clients
Rolf Otto Schiller (Former SS Officer) Karl Werner Von Metzger (Former SS radio operator) Wilhelm Groener (Former Luftwaffe Officer and Pilot)

Now - look at THESE

http://projectgermanveteran.aceboard.co ... ritain.htm

http://projectgermanveteran.aceboard.co ... -Recon.htm

http://projectgermanveteran.aceboard.co ... e-1940.htm

http://projectgermanveteran.aceboard.co ... ingrad.htm

http://projectgermanveteran.aceboard.co ... rcraft.htm

I DID say a while back that the next masterpiece might be the memoirs of Wilhelm Groener, BoB fighter pilot, pilot at Stalingrad and general all-theatres dogsbody of the Luftwaffe...I wonder what high-ranking Third Reich "face" THIS guy will be buddy-buddy with???

[Paddy Keating]

Stunning... I am actually, temporarily, lost for words...

[phylo_roadking]

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN...

Oh dear...

The two Army Wives' Sections now appear to have vanished from the board!

Either invisible to NON-members, or removed entirely...

AND THE "INTRODUCE YOURSELF" AND "HOW DID YOU FIND US" THREADS


Running scared, Paul? Hide the evidence now if you want - FAR too many people have seen it already

AND BY EVEN TRYING TO HIDE IT, YOU'RE MAKING IT ALL THE MORE OBVIOUS. HIDING THE "ARMY WIVES" SECTIONS COULD JUST POSSIBLY BE EXCUSED - BUT HIDING THE OTHER TWO IS JUST YOU HIDING THE EVIDENCE. YOU'VE JUST CONFIRMED YOUR OWN GUILT.

Don't bother with the stable door - the horse HAS already bolted...

[phylo_roadking]

P.S. The total "Post Count" is going down....

Busy deleting, Paul?

[statemachine]

At this point he is likely planning your demise,phylo.He's playing against impossible odds.

[Annelie]

At this point he is likely planning your demise,phylo.He's playing against impossible odds.

My thoughts exactly!

[phylo_roadking]

"Admin" and "Director" and any other "members" of projectgermanveteran are NOW caught in exactly the same Catch-22 that Paul K. Harker put himelf in....

ANY deletions and changes to the site prove that they've been caught and are trying to hide the evidence. Just like Harker proved he was a liar by telling TWO conflicting stories about the origins of "Directive 19", lied about his qualifications EITHER on All-Experts OR to the journalist Victor Greto, and lied about EITHER the picture of "Schiller" in "Directive 19" OR on AHF.

FAR too many people have seen their "forum" BEFORE they made any changes.

Similarly, if you give TWO versions of the truth...when only ONE at most can be right...this ONLY means the OTHER is a lie

I used the analogy a while back of Harker standing in plain sight holding the smoking gun, but I was wrong; he's standing in plain sight holding the PAINTBRUSH...that he painted himself into a corner with.

So be a man, Paul K. Harker, and put those Sections back on view...OR - now that you've be making a few deletions, would putting them back in THAT state just confirm things even more?

[Frederick L Clemens]

I wish someone could have archived the full blown version of his forum. It was incredible!! What's left is still fantastic, but I loved all those avatars of women posting on a WW2 "German vet" site. Can anyone imagine that many women in the entire world being interested in this topic, let alone all of them being hot babes? It seemed like he was fulfilling his own wet dream at the same time as his "clever" plan to rewrite the history of WW2. Maybe he was inspired by Col Klink's secretary on Hogan's Heroes? I think he has most of his historical knowledge from Hogan's Heroes as well.

I actually find it hard to read very much on his website - all those fake conversations back and forth between the members of his multiple personality syndrome create a very creepy feeling. Perhaps Terry Goldsworthy could do a book on Harker alone...call it "Internet Warrior of Valhalla - the Paul Harker Atrocities"

[Richard Hargreaves]

Sheesh, it's a forum for five-year-olds.

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