Heinkel He 162 Salamander.

jerijerod · Post by **jerijerod** » Tue Apr 29, 2003 4:11 am

Hi Guys,
I keep hearing mixed reviews on the Salamander and I was just wondering what you guys thought of it. Some say it was a revolutionary idea and plane and others, notably Galland, claim it was a waste of time and resources.
Anywho, tell me what you think.
Cheers
Chris

Gizmo · Post by **Gizmo** » Tue Apr 29, 2003 4:35 am

Hi
I agree witch Galland.
Really revolutionary project was Messerschmitt P. 1101

http://www.luft46.com/mess/mep1101.html

jerijerod · Post by **jerijerod** » Tue Apr 29, 2003 4:57 am

Yeah I vaguely remember reading about that in Pricthards "Messerschmitt". Wasn;t she a turbo chargejet. Its a shame that all of the Luftwaffes truly amazing planes came too late in the war to be developed properly.

Erich · Post by **Erich** » Tue Apr 29, 2003 8:48 am

The same opinions that I have about the Komet Me 163.

Crap ! a waste of time and man-power and both were pilot killers........limited aerial kills and no help in the war effort against Allied air-power.

The only thing I would say is that the Komet did have an impression on US fighter pilots as ace Don Bryan of the 352nd fighter group told me yesterday.......as one lone bird swept up through his flight in late 44........"Swoosh.......... what the Hell was that ? !"

~E

Sebastian Pye · Post by **Sebastian Pye** » Mon May 05, 2003 2:48 am

Yeah or what about all thos different "wings", stealthaircraft 60 years ahead of their time. They never even got to prototype stage though.

Markk · Post by **Markk** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:09 pm

was a fascinating design but quite clearly a last ditch effort to stave off the waves of bombers pulverizing Germany. Important thing to remember here (and with most late war LW projects) the Salamander was only possible thru the collected efforts of Albert Speer and other Nazi criminals, who employed 1000s in slave labor to build the planes for which there was no fuel and pilots to fly. Most of the poor souls who were forced to build the planes were later gunned down in cold blood by the SS as allied tank formations approached. Remember the blood spilled on these projects.

Locke · Post by **Locke** » Fri Dec 17, 2004 1:47 pm

Hello,

I've heard that He 162 could have been a good plane if constructors had more time. It was planned very, very quickly -- first prototype flew in december 1944 and first planes were delivered to the battle in january.
It was very unstable and as it was flown mainly by young, unexperienced pilots and so quite dangerous. The motors also broke down quickly.

xavier · Post by **xavier** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 8:30 am

captured salamander underground factory picture:

if image does not show, please visit: http://community.webshots.com/photo/128 ... 9497lTpBXU

regards

Xavier

Locke · Post by **Locke** » Tue Dec 21, 2004 2:10 pm

Good pic! Can I ask where you have it from?

Thanx:)

Arne · Post by **Arne** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:35 am

Sebastian Pye wrote:Yeah or what about all thos different "wings", stealthaircraft 60 years ahead of their time. They never even got to prototype stage though.

Are you talking about the Horton/Gotha flying wings?

xavier · Post by **xavier** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 12:23 pm

the source for the picture of the underground salamander facilitie is (was) a closed ebay auction by seller: snyder treasures, If I recall correctly

best regards

Xavier

Erich · Post by **Erich** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 5:01 pm

the pic is quite well known of one of several underground factoreis, first printed in the 1960's

Panzerschiff · Post by **Panzerschiff** » Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:28 pm

Some profiles:

Jez · Post by **Jez** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:54 pm

did they fly in combat?

regards Jez.

Rolf Steiner · Post by **Rolf Steiner** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:52 pm

I think RAF pilots spotted the odd one in last weeks of the war, but were any victories attributed to the 162?