Bring East Prussia Back To the Fatherland

[Reb]

Re American Indians. Yes you can find them on the reservations - or anywhere else! Most Americans you'll find are proud to have some Indian blood from one tribe or the other.

Their success with Casinos has certainly put them back on track economically as well.

Just my 2 cents
Reb

[mikerock]

Its true, the Soviets did not apologize for such incidents, but they didn't murdered so many Poles.

A little anecdote. My freind (also named Mike) is from Poland. I asked him if he had any stories from the war handed down to him. The only one he has is that to this day his family hates Russia and Russians. In the later part of the war when the Russians were advancing through Poland, my friend's Grandfather helped a wounded German soldier. When the Russians came he tried to hide him in his barn. The Russians found the German and shot the German and his Grandfather.

His Grandmather almost disowned his parents when they named their daughter Natashia because it sounds too Russian.

[Reb]

I had a Polish friend in Los Angeles who had served in the Polish, German and Russian Armies - they all stuck him in their armies as they came along.

He finally ended up in the Communist Polish Navy and together with the rest of his crew - defected and came to the US.

He respected the German Army for its order and organization, but detested the Russians with a passion. He never would go into too many details and always started using a lot of cuss words if I asked too many questions. Nice fella though - just had a rough time.

Note that this is obviously anecdotal and says nothing in the big picture.

cheers
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[HunterSeeker]

Need help of finding a "HitlerJugend" division photo,
The picture featured two german soldier one in the front about to do a Nazi Salute and the other one in the back lean against the wall look on.


Please the picture have to be in size of 1024x768


Many Thanks

[Der Untermensch]

Germany should ask Poland and Russia to return the land of East Prussia back under German control. Because East Prussia has been separated from the Fatherland for more than half a century long. Germany should use all necessary ACTION to defend her Sovereignty.

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Few weeks ago I have posted a message which contained mostly links to various web-based photographs of German soldiers. This post has been removed by the administrator few hours after it had been posted. I have never received any information which of the Feldgrau rules I have violated. The above quoted post is in place for half a day already. Just in case Mr Admin missed it (there are so many posts here!) I have notified him by e-mail. Let's see what happens.

one day gone... keep waiting...

two days gone... keep waiting... still...

four days gone... about to finish waiting... about to assume the above complies with the Feldgrau rules...

[heinz kling]

Just bugger off, would you?

[Fredd]

Just bugger off, would you?

wow, that was deep

[HunterSeeker]

Need help on the photo


Thanks everyone !

[Der Untermensch]

Germany should ask Poland and Russia to return the land of East Prussia back under German control. Because East Prussia has been separated from the Fatherland for more than half a century long. Germany should use all necessary ACTION to defend her Sovereignty.

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Few weeks ago I have posted a message which contained mostly links to various web-based photographs of German soldiers. This post has been removed by the administrator few hours after it had been posted. I have never received any information which of the Feldgrau rules I have violated. The above quoted post is in place for half a day already. Just in case Mr Admin missed it (there are so many posts here!) I have notified him by e-mail. Let's see what happens.

one day gone... keep waiting...

two days gone... keep waiting... still...

four days gone... about to finish waiting... about to assume the above complies with the Feldgrau rules...

all right. Almost a week gone, and as documented above, the patience of some Feldgrau contributors seems already exhausted (by my posts, this is to say). My patience is not yet, but let's comply with the vox populi.

I understand the post initiating this thread is well within the Feldgrau standards - the admin has neither banned the author nor removed the post nor locked the thread.

If these are the acceptable Feldgrau standards, than I am going to comply with them (and you thought I would just walk away?). When reading the posts I am going to place, please do not complain to me that they are

abusive

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slanderous

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hateful

or

threatening

or

intolerant

or

reactionary

or even

sexually-oriented

I think I have left enough time to clarify what is abusive and what is not (even more time than some posters can stand). Having this clear, I think there is no reason I should fear getting banned.

[Beppo Schmidt]

Just bugger off, would you?

Who are you talking to? All you ever do is drop by and make some meaningless comment like von Stauffenberg being tall enough for the gallows or the American side of Churchill being Jewish, so why don't you bugger off?

[heinz kling]

Your ignorance truly amazes.

[Pirx]

This discussion is stupid.
If somebody miss "East Prussia" or rather Mazury, let take a backpack, tent and guitar, and come here. He will be welcome, no matter who is he.

[Gebirgsjaeger]

Hi Pirx,

how old are you? Maybe I can visit you!!! My wife and me will go to Poland next spring to visit her familiy.

[Pirx]

Guest in home, God in home.
I live in south-west Poland, with wife and son. We dont know what will we do next year, everything is possible.

[Der Untermensch]

Germany should ask Poland and Russia to return the land of East Prussia back under German control. Because East Prussia has been separated from the Fatherland for more than half a century long. Germany should use all necessary ACTION to defend her Sovereignty.

so, you want to give Ostpreußen to Germany... My suggestion is you first consult the Germans, at least those living in Germany. You know, some of them had their bones trashed already, their cities levelled, and their women raped. Maybe they will not fancy this again.

But regardless of the above, you are free to get out of the USA and come to Ostpreußen. It is nice you publish these declarations in the web, but a personal example is the best way forward, I can tell you. I will be greeting you here. Moreover, I will kindly allow you to take some Ostpreußen with you and carry it across the Oder. How much Ostpreußen? Well, as much as you can carry with you. Hope you have large pockets. And on top of what you can carry with you, I will have a special gift for you (a surprise one, you know).

Where shall we meet? Well, there is lots of places which might be relevant for such a historical transaction.

Frauenburg dome im ganzen Land ihr schönstes Haus – great view from the tower, I can tell you, some elderly tourists speaking a foreign language I have once met there were overwhelmed

besterhaltene mittelalterliche Bauwerk in Preußen in Heilsberg – so carefully crafted and looked after by the art-sensitive local population

imposing concrete bunker near Rastenburg - slighly newer than mittelalterliche, unfortunately a bit punctuated since July 1944

Heiligelinde cloister - so much beloved by the local gläubliger Katholiken

Goldap, founded in 1565 by Prince Albrecht – stone bridges nearby are imposing

Abstimmungsdenkmal near Treuburg – to certify for ever

großten Markplatz Deutschlands in Treuburg – still quite huge, if not even larger, since some houses have somehow disappeared

Abstimmungsdenkmal in Allenstein – the Wir bleiben Deutsch inscription is so touchy!

the Kaizer monument in front of the Johannisburg Rathaus - erected by the faithful Volk

Denkmal des Reichgründers in Johannisburg – unfortunately the followers did not quite keep pace with the Gründers

Bismarck monument in front of the Johannisburg Rathaus – what an imposing figure!

Haupstadt Masurens Lyck – still the capital

Neidenburg castle - where ohne die Neidenburger Rittertürme hätte ich vielleicht die Geschichte der Stadt Rom im Mittelalter nicht geschrieben (Gregorovius)

Tatarenstein near Neidenburg - where barbarian hordes were so bravely repulsed

another Kaiser monument in Neidenburg – slightly trivial, but do not say this aloud

das Herz Masurens Lötzen – is it still beating?

where the Sensen legend began in Sensburg – is the legend still alive?

Wapplitz cementery - where in 1914 the barbarian Cossack hordes were decimated at such a high cost by those who still rest there

bekanntesten Schiffswerften der Welt in Elbing – by the way, later on they switched manufacturing to SdKfz

beloved Wilhelm II majolikas near Cadinen – look out, fragile

der Stammsitz des Deutschen Ordens, Marienburg – you can buy yourself a wooden sword or make a photo with two handsome Ritters in full combat gear, lots of sexy German teens do so

military barracks in Stuhm – still what they used to be, can you believe it!

Bunelka-Hohe near Lyck - where the grateful ones celebrated their brave defenders

die Pforte zu Masuren Angerburg – the Pforte was wide open in Jan 45

Ehrenfriedhof by Schwenzaitsee near Angerburg – what a breathtaking view

Samsonov Stein monument in the Willenbark woods – the place where the poor man acknowledged German superiority and shot himself in the head

Winrich von Kniprode castle in Rhein – how powerful!

the Nikolaiken bridge above König der Fische – but even the Fish King preferred to dive in when the Soviets came

marketplace of Ortelsburg, completely destroyed in 1914 - but rebuilt later on (unfortunately, complelety destroyed again afterwards)

Graf York Jägerkaserne in Ortelsburg – ever tried to count where the guys who stationed there finished their service?

Älteste Stadt Masurens Passenheim – a great testimony to the region’s history

No, all that is not good... I think I found another the place.

Tannenbergdenkmal in Hohenstein - immer lebendig bleibt unser Gedenken an die Heimat und an die Menschen, die in ihrer Erde ruhen.

Let’s meet there, by the entrance to the Hindenburg Tower, as pictured below.

You might find difficult to find it among the bushes and the debris, but I am sure you will manage. Will be waiting. The timing is to be decided. What about August 22 12:00? Hope you will sort out the visa by then. By the way, you know why August 22? Alternatively, January 21 would be another suggestion.

and do not chicken out, my friend! The Ostpreußen is all yours to take!