Stg44 rifle in Irak????

Javier Sandoval · Post by **Javier Sandoval** » Sun Jun 13, 2004 3:44 pm

How the hell has this WWII German Stg44 rifle arrived in Irak??????? As far as I know only about 70.000 Stg44 were manufactured during the war. Also where do these fighters get the 7,92x33 ammunition for the rifle? Is these guys were smarter, they would sell the rifle on the internet to a WWII collector and with the money buy 20 or more AK-47.

DasReichX · Post by **DasReichX** » Sun Jun 13, 2004 3:45 pm

Something about that image makes it look fake, that or I am just hallucinating

Javier Sandoval · Post by **Javier Sandoval** » Sun Jun 13, 2004 3:50 pm

DasReichX wrote:Something about that image makes it look fake, that or I am just hallucinating

I don't know if the image is a fake or not. But I think is original since I also saw other images of iraki fighters with Stg44's on television here in Spain.

DasReichX · Post by **DasReichX** » Sun Jun 13, 2004 3:53 pm

Maybe they are just guns that are identical to the StG44, and are just modified.

Javier Sandoval · Post by **Javier Sandoval** » Sun Jun 13, 2004 4:03 pm

Hello. It is actually a real Stg44, and there are more of them still in Irak. Check the following links:

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/cgi-bin/u ... 9;t=007411

http://shootersforum.com/showthread.htm ... nextnewest

Das-Reich · Post by **Das-Reich** » Sun Jun 13, 2004 4:13 pm

Hey Das. Hey Javier. I think that is a replica. The Pakistanis make exact and handmad replicas of weapons. It just happens that the Germans had supported the Muslims.

More than likely they were originally introduced by Germans and mercs and then copied by the Pakis.

Tolga Alkan · Post by **Tolga Alkan** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 1:56 am

BTW,I don't like picture it looks as edited.

Reb · Post by **Reb** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:48 am

Javier

If those guys were smart - well, they wouldn't be rioting in the street shooting rifles into the air! What goes up must come down...

I'm one of those firearms safety fanatics (having been nearly shot on several ocassions by sloppy gun handlers) and it just makes my skin crawl when I see those guys waving their guns around like that.

cheers
Reb

Patrick · Post by **Patrick** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 9:53 am

Yes, and from what I hear, low flying aircraft think they're being targeted and then call in an air strike!

medic · Post by **medic** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 10:37 am

It's actually not that unusual a thing to find. One of my friends recently got back from Iraq and he said they found a bunch of World War II weapons, including an MP40. He didn't get to keep it but he got to take some pictures with it and with some of the other stuff they found.

I also have a picture (somewhere) that a friend sent me from Iraq. It shows a Tiger tank being used as a road block in Iraq. As far as I know, the story goes that the tank came from an armor museum and was pulled out as, like I said, a road block. I'm sure if you look online, someone else has those photos as well.

- Chris

Nibelung · Post by **Nibelung** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 9:05 am

What can i say?
Are any other Stg44's lying around and you have nothing to do with them? Well, it easy!! send them to me!!!

best,
Nibelung

Javier Sandoval · Post by **Javier Sandoval** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 6:35 am

I also found these Somali fighters with Stg44.

Reb · Post by **Reb** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 6:53 am

Who can resist a cute girl with a gun?

And who can resist feeling sorrow for a country where young girls
must be carrying such weapons?

cheers
Reb

Nibelung · Post by **Nibelung** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:03 am

How did those Stg44's get in Africa and how come they still work (maybe bacause they're german

)? Also, do they even know what they hold in their hands?

best,
Nibelung

101stDoc · Post by **101stDoc** » Tue Jun 22, 2004 3:28 pm

There's considerable WW2 (actual, not replica) weaponry in Africa and the Middle east. Think about it. :P

I can speak to the Iraq issue personally. I do have some WW2 firearms in my collection, and have been studying books on the K98. I have NO doubt that some of the weapons we confiscated during ODS WERE vintage K98s. At the time, I thought they may have been more modern replicas, but after looking at some photos, and rolling things around up in my mind a bit, I'm sure that's what they were.

Of course, there were TONS of K98s made, and they are quite easy to find for collectors. Tho top end K98s can be spendy.

Out there, they have a cornucopia of weaponry. It's a gunrunner's paradise. If you name it, it is probably there somewhere. And if it isn't, someone that can find it probably is.

Doc