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Txs Mooyman dus in bivak dat verklaard een hoopPanzer Mooyman wrote:Nice picture. A general eating at a Feldkuche.
On feeling i'd say its early war, 39/40 or so.
(Just in case. The text is translated in Dutch to: "De Generaal in bivak" (Assuming you know the dutch language, dont know the english word) So Biwack isnt the name of the general.)
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Ah, the small jewels of information we get on these forums.
In English it would be one of two translations I think.
I thought "Du" meant in this case "your" as it doesn't look like the word "Der" which would mean "the.
So, it could be either Your General in bivouac or The General in bivouac.
I am not sure of the origin or the word bivouac but assume it is French.
If I am correct in the guess that it is "Your General in bivouac", if you could get an identity on the General in question I would think it would be worth much more than if it was "The General........"
Still, a photo of any General eating at a field kitchen has to also be worth more than the standard one of them sitting in a staff car or on a tank or whatever.
Nice picture in any case. Good selling.
Bill
In English it would be one of two translations I think.
I thought "Du" meant in this case "your" as it doesn't look like the word "Der" which would mean "the.
So, it could be either Your General in bivouac or The General in bivouac.
I am not sure of the origin or the word bivouac but assume it is French.
If I am correct in the guess that it is "Your General in bivouac", if you could get an identity on the General in question I would think it would be worth much more than if it was "The General........"
Still, a photo of any General eating at a field kitchen has to also be worth more than the standard one of them sitting in a staff car or on a tank or whatever.
Nice picture in any case. Good selling.
Bill
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I thought of this as well, but 'du' doesnt mean anything at all. It should have been "Ihren General" if you want "your general"Bill Murray wrote:I thought "Du" meant in this case "your" as it doesn't look like the word "Der" which would mean "the.
Also compare the writing of the 'er' between the words Der and General. Its tough figuring out personal handwriting, always a bit gambling involved.
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Gentlemen all:
I apologize for my attempting to show some knowledge of German
Actually I am still pretty good in my Swedish from having lived there for two years 1974-1976 and "Du" is a good word,"you" in Swedish but even there it would have been "Din General" in that language. I was guessing that the "Du" might work as the familiar form of "your" in German. I stand corrected. I also put the magnifying glass to the first word and it does actually seem to represent "Der" not "Du" as I had earlier thought.
I probably need to stick to English/Spanish/Swedish and not try to show off.
Still, a very nice photo and I hope someone eventually comes up with a positive ID of the individual involved.
Bill
I apologize for my attempting to show some knowledge of German
Actually I am still pretty good in my Swedish from having lived there for two years 1974-1976 and "Du" is a good word,"you" in Swedish but even there it would have been "Din General" in that language. I was guessing that the "Du" might work as the familiar form of "your" in German. I stand corrected. I also put the magnifying glass to the first word and it does actually seem to represent "Der" not "Du" as I had earlier thought.
I probably need to stick to English/Spanish/Swedish and not try to show off.
Still, a very nice photo and I hope someone eventually comes up with a positive ID of the individual involved.
Bill
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HI all,
I think the first word does not say "DU" at all.
Look at the word General, the "e" and "r" in that word look like an "U".
Then you get "Genual". That is not correct.
The word "Du" is in fact "Der".
It is just the handwriting that make it hard to read.
Regards,
Erik
I think the first word does not say "DU" at all.
Look at the word General, the "e" and "r" in that word look like an "U".
Then you get "Genual". That is not correct.
The word "Du" is in fact "Der".
It is just the handwriting that make it hard to read.
Regards,
Erik
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Thanks Anton:
I now agree to not try to translate any more German.
However, I do believe my premise that it might have been "Your" General would have properly been translated in Swedish to "Din", eller hur?
As to the dating of the photo, it is sad that in this case the focus is on the General and not the accompanying vehicles. I have been going through several reference books and photos in my collection and cannot for sure identify precisely either of the vehicles in the photo. I can guess pretty closely but I hate to do that. I would agree with others, though, that it must have been pretty early due to the type of vehicles pictured. The rearmost is, in my opinion, of the roughly 1935 to 1939 style of Kubel based on the way the top/tilt/hood is constucted with the typical sweep to the rear. As well, the General's host vehicle exhibits several ID clues that would lead to it probably being from the same era. Also, both vehicles seem to show little or no excess wear which could mean it was early in the campaign in , say, France.
Next. Bill
I now agree to not try to translate any more German.
However, I do believe my premise that it might have been "Your" General would have properly been translated in Swedish to "Din", eller hur?
As to the dating of the photo, it is sad that in this case the focus is on the General and not the accompanying vehicles. I have been going through several reference books and photos in my collection and cannot for sure identify precisely either of the vehicles in the photo. I can guess pretty closely but I hate to do that. I would agree with others, though, that it must have been pretty early due to the type of vehicles pictured. The rearmost is, in my opinion, of the roughly 1935 to 1939 style of Kubel based on the way the top/tilt/hood is constucted with the typical sweep to the rear. As well, the General's host vehicle exhibits several ID clues that would lead to it probably being from the same era. Also, both vehicles seem to show little or no excess wear which could mean it was early in the campaign in , say, France.
Next. Bill