Hi Forum!
Could anybody tell me where the Artillery Commanders Arko 141 and Arko 142 where based when Germany attacked the Soviet Union (22.06.1941). I guess they didn´t take part.
Many thanks in advance!
Stauffenberg
Arko 141, Arko 142
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Gentlemen,
I'm not saying that any of this is incorrect, I'd just like to mention a few facts. Das Deutsche Heer indicates that ARKO 141 was assigned to LXXXII A.K. It is true that LXXXII A.K. was formed from Höh.Kdo. XXXVII in late May 1942 however, Tessin does not indicate that any ARKO was attached to Höh.Kdo. XXXVII. Tessin also indicates that Höh.Kdo. XXXVII was under AOK 15 in the Netherlands from July '40 to May '42.
FWIW.
Jerry
I'm not saying that any of this is incorrect, I'd just like to mention a few facts. Das Deutsche Heer indicates that ARKO 141 was assigned to LXXXII A.K. It is true that LXXXII A.K. was formed from Höh.Kdo. XXXVII in late May 1942 however, Tessin does not indicate that any ARKO was attached to Höh.Kdo. XXXVII. Tessin also indicates that Höh.Kdo. XXXVII was under AOK 15 in the Netherlands from July '40 to May '42.
FWIW.
Jerry
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Hi Jerry!
Thank you for the clarification. It´s indeed a much appreciated additional info.
Don´t know the area of operation of HK XXXVII. AFAIK the 208. Infanteriedivision was subordinated, located at Calais. Moreover there were a lot of Railway Artillery Batteries in France. Their location there ("Street of Calais/Dover") would also fit.
Anyway it´s just speculative but at least a point to start my further research.
Regards
Thank you for the clarification. It´s indeed a much appreciated additional info.
Don´t know the area of operation of HK XXXVII. AFAIK the 208. Infanteriedivision was subordinated, located at Calais. Moreover there were a lot of Railway Artillery Batteries in France. Their location there ("Street of Calais/Dover") would also fit.
Anyway it´s just speculative but at least a point to start my further research.
Regards
Greetings Troops!
Don't know if this is any help?
I have no indication of where ARKO 141 and 142 were 22.06.41, but:
my records show the "140" series in Barbarossa as -
no Arko 140-141-142
Arko 143 - XXIV MotK - 02 PzAOK
Arko 144 - IX AK - 04 AOK (this one may be a typo on my part)
Arko 145 - VIII AK - 09 AOK
Arko 146 - XXXXVII MotK - 02 PzAOK
Arko 147 - VII AK - 04 AOK
Arko 148 - with 02 AOK (in reserve)
no Arko 149
Unfortunately I have very little information on in-depth makeup of the Korps in the West for June 1941, and the only "E"Abt's I'm showing for around that time were the ones attached to HQ: 04 AOK, for use in the East.
Sorry I'm not more help.
best regards Jerry, Stauffenberg, David:
Don't know if this is any help?
I have no indication of where ARKO 141 and 142 were 22.06.41, but:
my records show the "140" series in Barbarossa as -
no Arko 140-141-142
Arko 143 - XXIV MotK - 02 PzAOK
Arko 144 - IX AK - 04 AOK (this one may be a typo on my part)
Arko 145 - VIII AK - 09 AOK
Arko 146 - XXXXVII MotK - 02 PzAOK
Arko 147 - VII AK - 04 AOK
Arko 148 - with 02 AOK (in reserve)
no Arko 149
Unfortunately I have very little information on in-depth makeup of the Korps in the West for June 1941, and the only "E"Abt's I'm showing for around that time were the ones attached to HQ: 04 AOK, for use in the East.
Sorry I'm not more help.
best regards Jerry, Stauffenberg, David:
Signed: "The Shadow"
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Yes, Shadow, I have to admit that there is no satisfying source for the Arkos, although Brigade Commands. At least I don´t know such at source.
Here is what I have, based on the online "Schematische Gliederung" (Source: Chris Awender and Leo Niehorster):
140: IV. Armeekorps
141: ?
142: ?
143: XXIV. (mot.) Armeekorps
144: IV. Armeekorps
145: VIII. Armeekorps
146: XXXXVII. (mot.) Armeekorps
147: VII. Armeekorps
148: XII. Armeekorps (rather) or 2nd Army
149: XII. Armeekorps or 2nd Army (rather) or what
Thanks for helping!
Regards,
Stauffenberg
Here is what I have, based on the online "Schematische Gliederung" (Source: Chris Awender and Leo Niehorster):
140: IV. Armeekorps
141: ?
142: ?
143: XXIV. (mot.) Armeekorps
144: IV. Armeekorps
145: VIII. Armeekorps
146: XXXXVII. (mot.) Armeekorps
147: VII. Armeekorps
148: XII. Armeekorps (rather) or 2nd Army
149: XII. Armeekorps or 2nd Army (rather) or what
Thanks for helping!
Regards,
Stauffenberg
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Will continue by the way:
Arko 2: XXXVIII.
Arko 3: III. (mot.)
Arko 6: XI.
Arko 7: VII.
Arko 15: XXXXIV.
Arko 17 (II): XIII.
Arko 18: XX.
Arko 19: XXIX.
Arko 20: LIV.
Arko 22: V.
Arko 24: X.
Arko 27: LIII. (probably) - maybe XII./XXXXIII.
Arko 30: XXXXI. (mot.)
Arko 31: L. - Reserves
Arko 35: XXXIX. (mot.)
Arko 44: IX.
Arko 101: XXXXVI. (mot.)
Arko 102: XXIX.
Arko 103: XX.
Arko 104: 291. ID (attached), 18th Army
Arko 105: II.
Arko 106: LI. - Reserves
Arko 107. XX.
Arko 108: XXXXVIII. (mot.)
Arko 109: XVIII. - Balkans (12th Army)
Arko 110: XXX.
Arko 111: II.
Arko 112: XII.
Arko 113: XXVI.
Arko 114: XXXXII. - Reserves
Arko 121: LVII. (mot.)
Arko 122: XXIII.
Arko 123: I.
Arko 124: XXXXVIII. (mot.)
Arko 125: LVI. (mot.)
Arko 126: VI.
Arko 127: III. (mot.)
Arko 128: XXXX. (mot.) - Reserves
Arko 129: PG 1
Arko 130: XXVIII.
Arko 131: VIII.
Arko 132: XXXXIX. (Geb.)
Arko 133: XXXXIII.
Arko 134: XXXXVIII. (mot.)
Arko 135: X.
Arko 136. VIII.
Arko 137: XVII.
Arko 138: XI.
Arko 139: XXXXIII.
Arko 2: XXXVIII.
Arko 3: III. (mot.)
Arko 6: XI.
Arko 7: VII.
Arko 15: XXXXIV.
Arko 17 (II): XIII.
Arko 18: XX.
Arko 19: XXIX.
Arko 20: LIV.
Arko 22: V.
Arko 24: X.
Arko 27: LIII. (probably) - maybe XII./XXXXIII.
Arko 30: XXXXI. (mot.)
Arko 31: L. - Reserves
Arko 35: XXXIX. (mot.)
Arko 44: IX.
Arko 101: XXXXVI. (mot.)
Arko 102: XXIX.
Arko 103: XX.
Arko 104: 291. ID (attached), 18th Army
Arko 105: II.
Arko 106: LI. - Reserves
Arko 107. XX.
Arko 108: XXXXVIII. (mot.)
Arko 109: XVIII. - Balkans (12th Army)
Arko 110: XXX.
Arko 111: II.
Arko 112: XII.
Arko 113: XXVI.
Arko 114: XXXXII. - Reserves
Arko 121: LVII. (mot.)
Arko 122: XXIII.
Arko 123: I.
Arko 124: XXXXVIII. (mot.)
Arko 125: LVI. (mot.)
Arko 126: VI.
Arko 127: III. (mot.)
Arko 128: XXXX. (mot.) - Reserves
Arko 129: PG 1
Arko 130: XXVIII.
Arko 131: VIII.
Arko 132: XXXXIX. (Geb.)
Arko 133: XXXXIII.
Arko 134: XXXXVIII. (mot.)
Arko 135: X.
Arko 136. VIII.
Arko 137: XVII.
Arko 138: XI.
Arko 139: XXXXIII.
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