Is there a complete oob known for the German army in Italy during WWII?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Marc
Complete German oob for war in Italy?
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Complete German oob for war in Italy?
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Marc
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Re: Complete German oob for war in Italy?
Hello Marc,
IMHO the respons is NO.
You will find several OOB for the german army in Italy but it concerns only certain aeras by searching via the Google search engine.
Kindly regards
Prosper
IMHO the respons is NO.
You will find several OOB for the german army in Italy but it concerns only certain aeras by searching via the Google search engine.
Kindly regards
Prosper
Re: Complete German oob for war in Italy?
Prosper,
Thanks for replying, that saves me looking for files that don't exist...
I did find a summary of sorts in two books:
Concord publ. "Panzers in Italy 1943-45", by Tom Cockle
Osprey publ. "The German army 1939-45 (5) Western front 1943-45", by Nigel Thomas
Regards,
Marc
Thanks for replying, that saves me looking for files that don't exist...
I did find a summary of sorts in two books:
Concord publ. "Panzers in Italy 1943-45", by Tom Cockle
Osprey publ. "The German army 1939-45 (5) Western front 1943-45", by Nigel Thomas
Regards,
Marc
best regards,
Marc
Marc
Re: Complete German oob for war in Italy?
I made pics of the text in the Osprey book. It's far from complete, but it's a start.
There are units missing, like for example Stug Br 242 and 5 Werfer Brigade. Maybey we could build an oob together?
Regards,
Marc
There are units missing, like for example Stug Br 242 and 5 Werfer Brigade. Maybey we could build an oob together?
Regards,
Marc
best regards,
Marc
Marc
Re: Complete German oob for war in Italy?
I wrote up the Osprey pages and added info from Panzerwrecks 8 and Concord "Panzers in Italy"
OOB German army Italy WWII
Sicily, July 1943
14th Panzer corps:
15 Panzergrenadier Division
29 Panzergrenadier Division
Herman Goering Luftwaffe Panzer Division
Calabria, August 1943
10th Army:
56th Corps
15 Panzergrenadier Divisions
29 Panzergrenadier Division
26 Panzer Division
16 Panzer Division
1 Luftwaffe airborne (Fallschirmjager division?)
Reserve
3 Panzer grenadier Division
90 Panzergrenadier Division
2 Fallschirmjager Division
16 Reichsfuher SS Panzergrenadier Division
September 1943
Army Group B moves to Northern Italy after armistice of Italian government:
51 Corps
97 Corps
2 SS Panzer Corps
November 1943, Army group C is formed:
10th Army
44, 65, 94, 305 Infantry Divisions
15, 29, 90 Panzergrenadier Dvisions
5 Gebirgsjager Division
26 Panzer Division
1 Fallschirmjager Division
Hermann Goering Luftwaffe Panzer Division
14th Army
71, 162, 278, 334, 356, 362 Infantry Division
188 Reserve Gebirgsjager Division
March 1944 Armee abteilung Von Zangen is formed.
Expanded in July to Armee Liguria:
2 Italian RSI divisions
34 Infantery Division
148, 157 Reserve Division
42 Rifle Division
5 Gebirgsjager Division
Units not mentioned in the Osprey text:
I/ Panzer Reg 4 (later to 26 PD)
Stug Br 242
Stug Br 907
Werfer Brigade 5
s Pz Abt 504
s Pz Abt 508
s Pz Komp Meyer
St Pz Abt 216
Pz Ausb Abt “Sud”
s Pz Jag Abt 525
s Pz Jag Abt 653
OOB German army Italy WWII
Sicily, July 1943
14th Panzer corps:
15 Panzergrenadier Division
29 Panzergrenadier Division
Herman Goering Luftwaffe Panzer Division
Calabria, August 1943
10th Army:
56th Corps
15 Panzergrenadier Divisions
29 Panzergrenadier Division
26 Panzer Division
16 Panzer Division
1 Luftwaffe airborne (Fallschirmjager division?)
Reserve
3 Panzer grenadier Division
90 Panzergrenadier Division
2 Fallschirmjager Division
16 Reichsfuher SS Panzergrenadier Division
September 1943
Army Group B moves to Northern Italy after armistice of Italian government:
51 Corps
97 Corps
2 SS Panzer Corps
November 1943, Army group C is formed:
10th Army
44, 65, 94, 305 Infantry Divisions
15, 29, 90 Panzergrenadier Dvisions
5 Gebirgsjager Division
26 Panzer Division
1 Fallschirmjager Division
Hermann Goering Luftwaffe Panzer Division
14th Army
71, 162, 278, 334, 356, 362 Infantry Division
188 Reserve Gebirgsjager Division
March 1944 Armee abteilung Von Zangen is formed.
Expanded in July to Armee Liguria:
2 Italian RSI divisions
34 Infantery Division
148, 157 Reserve Division
42 Rifle Division
5 Gebirgsjager Division
Units not mentioned in the Osprey text:
I/ Panzer Reg 4 (later to 26 PD)
Stug Br 242
Stug Br 907
Werfer Brigade 5
s Pz Abt 504
s Pz Abt 508
s Pz Komp Meyer
St Pz Abt 216
Pz Ausb Abt “Sud”
s Pz Jag Abt 525
s Pz Jag Abt 653
best regards,
Marc
Marc
Re: Complete German oob for war in Italy?
This book by Stefano di Giusto is a treasure trove
http://www.panzer-ozak.it/description_eng.htm
Units mentioned:
Wehrmacht:
Panzer-Flamm-Zug / Panzer-Regiment 36
2. Panzer-Sicherungs-Kompanie
3. Panzer-Sicherungs-Kompanie
Panzer-Einsatz-Kompanie 35
Panzer-Einsatz-Kompanie Ligurien
I. Abteilung / Panzer Regiment 1
Panzer-Abteilung 208
Panzer-Abteilung 212
Panzer-Abteilung Adria
Aufklärungs-Abteilung 44
Aufklärungs-Abteilung 171
Aufklärungs-Abteilung 236
Panzer-Jäger-Abteilung 46
Panzer-Jäger-Abteilung 171
Panzer-Jäger-Abteilung 194
Panzer-Jäger-Abteilung 236
Panzer-Grenadier (Lehr) Regiment 901
Panzer-Grenadier-Regiment 21
Panzer-Zug 24
Panzer-Zug 73
Waffen-SS
Panzer-Kompanie Karstjäger
1. Kompanie / SS-Panzer-Jäger-Abteilung 1 "LSSAH"
SS-Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung 1 "LSSAH"
SS-Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung 16 "RFSS"
Ordnungspolizei
Sturmgeschütz-Zug / SS-Polizei-Regiment 19
5. (verstärkte) Polizei-Panzer-Kompanie
13. (verstärkte) Polizei-Panzer-Kompanie
14. (verstärkte) Polizei-Panzer-Kompanie
Gendarmerie-Reserve-Kompanie (motorisierte) Alpenland 3
I. Bataillon / SS-Polizei-Regiment Bozen
III. Bataillon / SS-Polizei-Regiment 15
http://www.panzer-ozak.it/description_eng.htm
Units mentioned:
Wehrmacht:
Panzer-Flamm-Zug / Panzer-Regiment 36
2. Panzer-Sicherungs-Kompanie
3. Panzer-Sicherungs-Kompanie
Panzer-Einsatz-Kompanie 35
Panzer-Einsatz-Kompanie Ligurien
I. Abteilung / Panzer Regiment 1
Panzer-Abteilung 208
Panzer-Abteilung 212
Panzer-Abteilung Adria
Aufklärungs-Abteilung 44
Aufklärungs-Abteilung 171
Aufklärungs-Abteilung 236
Panzer-Jäger-Abteilung 46
Panzer-Jäger-Abteilung 171
Panzer-Jäger-Abteilung 194
Panzer-Jäger-Abteilung 236
Panzer-Grenadier (Lehr) Regiment 901
Panzer-Grenadier-Regiment 21
Panzer-Zug 24
Panzer-Zug 73
Waffen-SS
Panzer-Kompanie Karstjäger
1. Kompanie / SS-Panzer-Jäger-Abteilung 1 "LSSAH"
SS-Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung 1 "LSSAH"
SS-Sturmgeschütz-Abteilung 16 "RFSS"
Ordnungspolizei
Sturmgeschütz-Zug / SS-Polizei-Regiment 19
5. (verstärkte) Polizei-Panzer-Kompanie
13. (verstärkte) Polizei-Panzer-Kompanie
14. (verstärkte) Polizei-Panzer-Kompanie
Gendarmerie-Reserve-Kompanie (motorisierte) Alpenland 3
I. Bataillon / SS-Polizei-Regiment Bozen
III. Bataillon / SS-Polizei-Regiment 15
best regards,
Marc
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Re: Complete German oob for war in Italy?
Hello Marc,
I found this over here:
https://weltkrieg2.de/wehrmacht-kriegsg ... ober-1943/
but that are the Oob AFTER the Italian capitulation in 1943:
Have a look on the middle of the page
Sorry for my poor english but's not my native language
Kindly regards
Prosper
I found this over here:
https://weltkrieg2.de/wehrmacht-kriegsg ... ober-1943/
but that are the Oob AFTER the Italian capitulation in 1943:
Have a look on the middle of the page
Sorry for my poor english but's not my native language
Kindly regards
Prosper
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