Panzerbeobachswagen Panther

German weapons, vehicles and equipment 1919-1945.

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Panzerbeobachswagen Panther

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There were supossed to be 41 made did any ever see combat?
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Description or picture of it??
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I can't say I have read on it myself.
Thanks for the photo.
What size gun on it?
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What size gun on it
MG34!

Gun is replaced with rangefinders etc. Barrel is camouflage.
Read post (very bottom) in second link.


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@Waleed my German isn't so good, does the second link say if it saw combat ?
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Apollyon wrote:There were supossed to be 41 made did any ever see combat?
No production run was ever done. Just one prototype. Production of combat tanks were deemed more important than a artillery observation vehicle.

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From what I read they were not "prodution" tanks they were refits to damaged vehicles.
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Apollyon wrote:From what I read they were not "prodution" tanks they were refits to damaged vehicles.
I seem to recall reading that somewhere too. However, it never happened.

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From what I can find, only a single trials vehicle was built/converted.
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I could comment that before you need OP tanks you need sufficient artillery to make them worth while. Looking at the picture there aren't any obvious signs of arty specific instruments and there aren't the number of antennas one might expect (based on UK's quite extensive use of OP tanks including many with dummy guns).
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Have you looked at a Panzerbeobachswagen III very successful vehicle and had a similar "look"

nigelfe wrote:I could comment that before you need OP tanks you need sufficient artillery to make them worth while. Looking at the picture there aren't any obvious signs of arty specific instruments and there aren't the number of antennas one might expect (based on UK's quite extensive use of OP tanks including many with dummy guns).
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I have been wondering what he means by "Atrillery specific equiptment". Back then all you had was a map, binoculars, a compass and a radio or 2. We still shoot like that for the most part, though laser range finders are now used instead of estimating distance to target.
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German arty seems to have had some affinity for optical rangefinders and tripod mounted binos.
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