I've heard a rumor somewhere that the Brits claim that the Typhoon was a better ground attack airplane than the P-47 Thunderbolt!!!!
That's like saying a Lancaster was a better bomber than a B-17!!!!:shock:
I regard this as revisionist history! Anyone on that little island nation care to debate the issue????
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Hi CDtheE,
The Typhoon was only a poor Tempest. Compare that with your flying Thunderbrick. (Heck, if the Thunderbolt was so good, how come that it was issued to the Brazilians and Mexicans?)
Bombers are for delivering bombs. The Lancaster delivered far more pounds of bombs than the Fortress. Twice as many, if I remember correctly. And could a Fortress carry a 22,000lb bomb? A Lanc could - just!
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The Typhoon was only a poor Tempest. Compare that with your flying Thunderbrick. (Heck, if the Thunderbolt was so good, how come that it was issued to the Brazilians and Mexicans?)
Bombers are for delivering bombs. The Lancaster delivered far more pounds of bombs than the Fortress. Twice as many, if I remember correctly. And could a Fortress carry a 22,000lb bomb? A Lanc could - just!
Any reply from your continental land mass?
Cheers,
Jingo Sid.
Sitting on my Imperialist hands whilst not being tempted by my Colonial baiting Though in this day and age I think the relative national tags could be swapped around
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Or that the B24 was better than the B17That's like saying a Lancaster was a better bomber than a B-17
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Just this, how long would Bomber Command have lasted were the Lancs committed to daylight raids? Seems to me the Lanc--unlike the Fortress--couldn't take care of itself.Bombers are for delivering bombs. The Lancaster delivered far more pounds of bombs than the Fortress. Twice as many, if I remember correctly. And could a Fortress carry a 22,000lb bomb? A Lanc could - just!
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Hi CDtheE,
Not for long. But then neither would 8th USAAF and its Fortresses. What saved the Fortresses were long range fighters, not the small army of machine gunners aboard them using weight and space better devoted to a bomber's primary mission - carrying bombs. In one well reported mission Fortress gunners claimed 90+ victories and the Germans actually lost two!
Of course, the best of these long-range fighters was the Mustang, built to a British specification and using a British-designed engine. No thanks necessary.
Cheers,
Jingo Sid.
Not for long. But then neither would 8th USAAF and its Fortresses. What saved the Fortresses were long range fighters, not the small army of machine gunners aboard them using weight and space better devoted to a bomber's primary mission - carrying bombs. In one well reported mission Fortress gunners claimed 90+ victories and the Germans actually lost two!
Of course, the best of these long-range fighters was the Mustang, built to a British specification and using a British-designed engine. No thanks necessary.
Cheers,
Jingo Sid.
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Ah yes Sid, once again it takes an American to make a British dream come true!!! Ever hear of Packard in reference to the Mustang's engine? By the way, how many Mustangs were actually built in England?Of course, the best of these long-range fighters was the Mustang, built to a British specification and using a British-designed engine. No thanks necessary.
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Hi DavidBy the way, how many Mustangs were actually built in England?
What's that got to do with the price of fish?
Its like responding with 'Where did the Mustangs fly from to escort the bombers'
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Hi CDtheE,
Yup, I've heard of Packard. They were the US company used to build British Merlin engines because the original US Allison engines of the first Mustangs weren't up to scratch.
No Mustangs were built in Britain. We subcontracted the manual part of the programme to US factories to make our deams come true. We even paid for them - eventually! We did that with other British ideas as well, such as H2S/H2X radar, Liberty ships, etc..
But as I said, no thanks are necessary..... common cause..... shared ideals...... special relationship..... etc., etc.
We dont mind warming up your wars for you, just do long as you win them for us.
Cheers,
Sid
Yup, I've heard of Packard. They were the US company used to build British Merlin engines because the original US Allison engines of the first Mustangs weren't up to scratch.
No Mustangs were built in Britain. We subcontracted the manual part of the programme to US factories to make our deams come true. We even paid for them - eventually! We did that with other British ideas as well, such as H2S/H2X radar, Liberty ships, etc..
But as I said, no thanks are necessary..... common cause..... shared ideals...... special relationship..... etc., etc.
We dont mind warming up your wars for you, just do long as you win them for us.
Cheers,
Sid