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Thanks. I missed that.Jan-Hendrik wrote:http://www.feldgrau.net/phpBB2/viewtopi ... ght=wiking
Enclosed is some info in this regard:Schpam wrote:I've been reading Tieke's "The Caucasus and the Oil" and there is much about Wiking in it. So in an effort to learn some about this unit and looking around at http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de./Gl ... Wiking.htm I see that it supposedly had a Sturmgeschutz Abteilung. Is this true? Did it have any StuGs during the summer 1942 offensives? I haven't found a reference to any in Tieke's book so far.
I did do a forum search but I didn't find anything about an attached STuG unit.
Here is what Peter Strassner says about this issue:Marko wrote:A Stug.Bttr. was formed in 1941 but was then disbanded prior to the Caucassus campaign. There were no organic Stugs with the division in Op. Blau.
This is not correct, as this was Stug.bttr. and Hstuf. Böhmer was the battery's commander.StuGAbt's first encounter
If this is from the source mentioned bellow, this is again not correct. Stug.bttr. wasn't formed from Stug.Abt. as the latter didn't exist. Like already mentioned the battery was effectively dissolved in early 1942 and its remains were sent to Germany were they were integrated into the forming Stug.Abt. of the LSSAH as the 2nd battery. As for the subordination under Art.Rgt., this was nothing exceptional, you'll find the same examples in Totenkopf and SS-Reich divisions. LSSAH had a bit different organization - Stugs and PzJäg. were organized under Abt.Schönberg.From the remnants of the StuGAbt and the I. /Germania - through refitting and training new personnel - a divisional StuGBatterie was formed.” Because of its nature - being part of AR 5, it is not mentioned in the statistics of the PzAbt 5 or PzJgAbt 5.
So for a time frame of nearly a year there's only one single mention of four Stugs from a Stug.Abt. supporting an infantry attack. Sorry, but I just don't buy this, not even subordination under Art.Rgt. can't explain the apparent lack of info on this unit.“This last attack started, according to the KTB of the Finnish Battalion, in the morning of the 15th of October, when two battalions, Battalion Diekmann (I. /Germania) - obviously in the right flank - and Battalion Nickel (IR 70) strengthened by the 9. /Germania advanced towards the hills 694 and 701. The attackers were supported by four Nebelwerferbatterei, four StuGs (must have been remnants of the StuGBatterie, not Marders), and the Engineer battalion of the IR 70…”