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Arizona shooter cited Mein Kampf in online postings...

Post by L. Kafka » Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:59 pm

I keep wondering if I should bother to read Mein Kampf. Is the book at all interesting, or is it just full of stale, boring ruminations of a frustrated man?
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Post by AHK » Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:28 pm

He also read Aesops Fables. What is your point!

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Post by Tom Houlihan » Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:44 pm

The Communist Manifesto was also on the top of his reading list...

As for reading Mein Kampf, I'd recommend against it. I've tried reading it. I'm a reasonably intelligent guy (jury's still out on smart...), but that book lost me, big time! I don't think my 7-y/o rambles as much as AH! If that book was the road map to Hitler's war, it's easy to see how the Allies got lost!
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Or should it be how the German got lost...

Post by L. Kafka » Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:27 pm

...once the roads petered out after moving east out of Poland. No all-weather roads to speak of in the Soviet Union that connected cities, plus a rail system that was of different gauge. Speer should have injected, "Mein, Fuhrer, we have a little logistic issue to work out with this Barbarossa plan..." :shock:
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Post by Rolf Steiner » Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:15 pm

Don't ALL crazed gunmen read MK? Picked one up in Borders once, regretted it within paragraphs. Hate to think what the sequel was like.
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Post by AHK » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:41 pm

Off with thier blooming heads!

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Post by Tom Houlihan » Fri Jan 14, 2011 3:42 pm

Rolf Steiner wrote: Hate to think what the sequel was like.
I heard he was working on that very thing during the Spring of '45, but the OKW kept interrupting him with something about the Ostfront, and Remagen. I'm not positive that the draft was complete... :[] :roll:
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Post by haen2 » Fri Jan 14, 2011 4:03 pm

At the time, we all got a "free" copy of Mein Kampf, ( which a few days later was deducted from our soldierpay ) :evil:
It also was naturally required reading, but luckily i got my hands on a booklet of the most famous (or infamous?) quotes, something like the "notes" our highschool kids can buy about classics.
I honestly tried to read the real one, but found it "boooooooooring".
After I came to the U.S. i even bought an English translation ,just for the halibut. It was worse than the original :(
Oh well, I think it ended up in the donation pile of books to the Goodwill.
As far as the "Arizona shooter" goes, this thing will be milked to the last drop. Our anti gun nazis will have a ball.
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Ya know what the difference is between Adolf Hitler...

Post by L. Kafka » Sat Jan 15, 2011 12:24 pm

...and Mark Twain?...
Hitler never used he N-word in his writings. I don't think he even invoked "schwarza(sp)." :wink:
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Post by statemachine » Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:54 pm

haen2 wrote:At the time, we all got a "free" copy of Mein Kampf, ( which a few days later was deducted from our soldierpay ) :evil:
It also was naturally required reading, but luckily i got my hands on a booklet of the most famous (or infamous?) quotes, something like the "notes" our highschool kids can buy about classics.
I honestly tried to read the real one, but found it "boooooooooring".
After I came to the U.S. i even bought an English translation ,just for the halibut. It was worse than the original :(
Oh well, I think it ended up in the donation pile of books to the Goodwill.
As far as the "Arizona shooter" goes, this thing will be milked to the last drop. Our anti gun nazis will have a ball.
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Post by xguardian » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:34 am

I read it just to see what all the fuss was about. If that book made enough sense to someone to make them turn into a crazed gunmen , then then there were touched before hand . Anyone that book reaches is a few fries short of a happy meal.

quite tired of psychos going crazy and then we hear they read a book leading us to believe that made them that way . How come every psycho has a written list or keeps every book he ever read . Sounds like Propaganda to me. I have read thousands of books I do not have a list anywhere and books are not here . If the FBI came in they would my kid's books , The bible , 2 books on the Bible code and my wife's twilight books . Guess if I go crazy it will be for team Edward or to find big birds phone

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Post by Ronald Lameck » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:50 am

I first read Mein Kampf (an English translation) in the summer of 1971. It took me more than three months to get through. It contains a lot of dubious autobiography. I had to do a great deal of research to follow up on his ideas. In doing so, I learned a very great deal of German and European history. This included quite a bit about aspects that are obscure or even virtually forgotten today.
You need to remember that much - maybe even most - of the book was dictated to Rudolf Hess by Hitler, who was a prisoner in the jail at Landsberg-am-Lech at the time. It could have gained much from a good edit, but there seemed to be some haste for him to get his message out.
The book is a tedious read, but no worse than a lot of others I have read. The ideas are not systematically listed - you have to dig them out. In this respect, it is much like "Being an Inquiry Into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations", Adam Smith's tome that is now considered the "Bible" of capitalism even though much of it is hopelessly obsolete. Hitler makes a cogent argument, even if it is rife with logical fallacies. He does offer up a few gems that still hold true today. For example, his famous criticism of democracy:
"The votes of two idiots count for more than the vote of one wise man."
I would say that if you REALLY wanted to understand National Socialism and Hitler's intentions, there is no better source. The man was at least a pseudo-intellectual.

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