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Could you expand a bit on the part about returning maps to the Soviets? What maps are you talking about, and which room at NARA (in College Park?) has them?Abicht wrote: I want to make one think clear. NARA no longer has ANY original situation maps. They were all given back to Germany between 3 and 7 years ago (funny NARA refuses to give back to Russia the hundreds of annotated tactical maps -most in very poor shape- that the Germans captured from the Soviets from 41-44 then the US grabbed them!). These are NARAs "master tranparencies" I am using, (which are actually very high res and clear themselves).
Thank you very much. Where exactly are they, in Archives II?Abicht wrote:Gary-
The maps I mentioned were hundreds of maps from 1941-44 captured by the Germans at various points and various battles. I saw ones captured in June and July 1941, to one from summer 42, and even some from the Soviet advance on Warsaw in 44. In total they cover a massive are of Eastern Europe. (Yes Romanian/Moldova area too as I saw those).
NARA has had agreements with most governments to give back material that originated from that nation during the war, except Russia I think, of course due to the cold war. Anyway there are several hundred, mostly in poor shape, ripped, partly burned, and soiled, yet annotated at many levels. Locations of mortar and artillery positions on the Red Army side, to major thrust towards cities. Some annotations are very hard to see now, yet others look like they were just done.
A member of the staff told me they will never be retured to Russia, but who knows. Anyway nobody ever looks at them and it took the staff a whole day just to find them as they were poorly identifed in a listing I found in the cartographic rooms.
I recently took a few dozen photos of them with my camera, though they are not the best. Some maps are small and others measure at about 3 meters by 2 meters!
Bottom line is most are in such bad shape (yet very interesting and valuable) I have no way to copy them, nor will NARA let most of them be scanned as they would get destoryed in a "feed" type scanner.
Few know about them, have seen them, they have not been published, and need some preservation work done on them so they may be scanned or properly photographed.
I understand that one can't simply walk in if you don't know where to go in the first place. Rather than duplicate the months it took you to find them, I'm asking you where exactly to go to ask and what to ask for. I assume we're talking about Archives II in College Park?Abicht wrote:Gary,
Not sure what you mean "exactly where they are" as you must ask for them. Have you been to NARA - Carto div before? I can point you to the number you need to requestthem but that will only get you to the genaral material. But it isnt as easy as walking in and asking for them as they are in many folders, not specified to area and so on. I worked on this for nearly 3 years and it took me months just to find the proper material.