German situation maps on this site
Moderator: Abicht
I sat in my chair at work for about 30 seconds and just stared at the screen while my mind tried to wrap itself around this. Even as a hobby, or to prove someone wrong, this would be a fantastic resource, and since i'm supposed to start graduate school in the near future, working towards a masters in military history, well.....now i need to learn german and russian.
Gold for the craftsman,
Silver for the maid.
Copper for the craftsman,
cunning at his trade
"Good!" said the Baron,
Sitting in his hall
"but Iron, Cold Iron,
is master of them all"
-Kipling
Silver for the maid.
Copper for the craftsman,
cunning at his trade
"Good!" said the Baron,
Sitting in his hall
"but Iron, Cold Iron,
is master of them all"
-Kipling
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Jason Pipes
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Besides selling the CDs, was there a plan to host the maps on the site with a pay per download ?
thanks,
Tom
thanks,
Tom
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Are there any plans to add more maps on demand, for a fee ?
thanks,
Tom
thanks,
Tom
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Well as most of us likely do, I have a full time job as a senior researcher for the government, so scanning the maps is something I must do on my own time. That said I have modified my time in order to get about 100-200 maps scanned in every 2 weeks. I have had a good number requests for areas, but will now focus on the east in 1942, which will take a a bit of time.
M.Abicht
maps on the site
I would be willing to throw money in for map scans to help defray your costs.
Mad Dog
Mad Dog
Re Pricing
Hi
As someone who buys these maps I can tell you your prices are dirt cheap. Dirt cheap. For instance, there is a 1_100k 1st October Stalingrad situation map for sale currently at USD1,350. In truth situation maps rarely got onto the market for the obvious reasons. Even tactically marked originals command a high premium.
Dr Glantz was earlier doing this with his Atlas series, selling them at US$50 (in 2003). So, the Kursk atlas with78 maps was US$45. This was for poor quality reproductions giving a net result like a bad fax. It was heart breaking to see it because the originals are striking as evidenced by the Leibstandarte map booklets.
Final pricing example is that of single-sheet downloadable Cold War military Russian maps which are avaible between US$29-49, though many are free if you can find them!
You are proposing to sell the crown jewels. Digital copies may be inifinitely duplicatable and therefore close to zero in cost but as almost none of this is in the public domain, the scarcity gives them a high value.
I have for many years wanted to find a researcher to pay to do this duplication. That someone is effectively doing this for free is truly noble, fantastic for those of not able to get to the archives, great for us amatuer historians and I would think scholarship in general. However, I for one would not complain if there was a bit more capitalism in the project and you made a decent turn.
Simon
As someone who buys these maps I can tell you your prices are dirt cheap. Dirt cheap. For instance, there is a 1_100k 1st October Stalingrad situation map for sale currently at USD1,350. In truth situation maps rarely got onto the market for the obvious reasons. Even tactically marked originals command a high premium.
Dr Glantz was earlier doing this with his Atlas series, selling them at US$50 (in 2003). So, the Kursk atlas with78 maps was US$45. This was for poor quality reproductions giving a net result like a bad fax. It was heart breaking to see it because the originals are striking as evidenced by the Leibstandarte map booklets.
Final pricing example is that of single-sheet downloadable Cold War military Russian maps which are avaible between US$29-49, though many are free if you can find them!
You are proposing to sell the crown jewels. Digital copies may be inifinitely duplicatable and therefore close to zero in cost but as almost none of this is in the public domain, the scarcity gives them a high value.
I have for many years wanted to find a researcher to pay to do this duplication. That someone is effectively doing this for free is truly noble, fantastic for those of not able to get to the archives, great for us amatuer historians and I would think scholarship in general. However, I for one would not complain if there was a bit more capitalism in the project and you made a decent turn.
Simon
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Thank you very much for additional insight into the situation maps subject. When I approach Jason with the idea it was basically that I found that these maps were easily able to be reporduced in digital form. I wanted to sell them at a fair price, as they are a key factor in historical research, but I didnt have a market, Jason did and although I am a member of other forums and considered them all, especially a larger one, Feldgrau seemed to be the one.
That aside, we have been tending to a few other things in the past week or so and this project has been a little delayed. Hopefully this will be the week to begin offering them (ones scanned in so far). I think that orders will be place via Feldgrau, and shipped out by me on CD until there is the ability to have them all downloadable here.
Again thanks for the additional angle- we hope to provide some great maps at the cheapest price out there. I for one hope that a few more books and research products come out of all of this.
Thank you very much for additional insight into the situation maps subject. When I approach Jason with the idea it was basically that I found that these maps were easily able to be reporduced in digital form. I wanted to sell them at a fair price, as they are a key factor in historical research, but I didnt have a market, Jason did and although I am a member of other forums and considered them all, especially a larger one, Feldgrau seemed to be the one.
That aside, we have been tending to a few other things in the past week or so and this project has been a little delayed. Hopefully this will be the week to begin offering them (ones scanned in so far). I think that orders will be place via Feldgrau, and shipped out by me on CD until there is the ability to have them all downloadable here.
Again thanks for the additional angle- we hope to provide some great maps at the cheapest price out there. I for one hope that a few more books and research products come out of all of this.
M.Abicht