Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

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Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

Post by tigre » Sat Nov 21, 2015 7:35 am

Hello to all :D; a little query.............................

Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

AFAIK during this campaign, the German tanks carried the Balkan cross in white, but I've seen some pictures showing the Balkan cross in black and white like the 1940's style as early as the beginning of the Polish campaign (see below). I think that the Pz Abt 33 within the 4. Le Div carried that marking. What do you think about?............

Source: http://odkrywca.pl/panzer-1939-czesc-osma,652592.html

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Advance of our tanks at Slomka - Sep, 04 1939..........................
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Re: Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

Post by tigre » Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:02 pm

Hello to all :D; something more, here goes a few photos from an album on an engineer unit during the campaign in Poland 1939.

Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

Source: Fotoalbum 2.Pi.86 1.9.39 Pollen Einsatz Panzer Kampf Technik Vormarsch Spähwagen

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Rear view of a Pz Kw II with the cross outlined in white...............................
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An armored column of Pz Abt 33 ?; in the foreground a Pz Kw III Ausf. D (right) and a SdKfz 265 with the cross outlined in white...............
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Re: Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

Post by tigre » Sat Dec 05, 2015 7:29 am

Hello to all :D; something more......................

Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

Source: http://odkrywca.pl/panzer39-wraki-czesc ... 30647.html

Any idea about the unit? Cheers. Raul M 8).
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German armored column (light tanks) being transported by rail; in the foreground a Pz Kw II Ausf. a / b (white cross inside rectangle) and Pz Kw II Ausf. A / B / C (white cross in a triangle) ...............
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Re: Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

Post by tigre » Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:09 am

Hello to all :D; something more......................

Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

Source: http://odkrywca.pl/panzer-1939-czesc-10,676891.html

Any idea about the unit? Cheers. Raul M 8).

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German armored column at rest in its assembly area; in the foreground a Pz Kw II Ausf. A / B / C No. 331 with the characteristic white cross within a triangle ...............
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Re: Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

Post by tigre » Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:45 am

Hello to all :D; something more......................

Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

Source: http://odkrywca.pl/panzer-1939-czesc-14,721701.html

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Close view of a Sd Kfz 265 Panzerbefehlswagen I on a chassis Ausf. B, carrying the different cross; behind posters in German and Polish (Obuwie - Footwear).....................
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Re: Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

Post by tigre » Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:51 pm

Hello to all :D; something more......................

Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

Source: http://odkrywca.pl/panzer-1939-czesc-15 ... tml#731510

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A Pz Kw I Ausf. A rolling around Rabka; this tank carried the cross outlined in white (instead of the usual white cross)...............................
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Re: Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

Post by tigre » Mon May 02, 2016 6:47 pm

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Standard white cross!

Close view of a couple of Pz Kw IV in Poland 1939 with the standard white cross (first in its front center and second eccentrically to one side)......................

Source: http://odkrywca.pl/panzer-1939-czesc-osma,652592.html

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Pz Kw IV Ausf. B/C in one assembly area...........................................................
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Pz Kw IV Ausf. A in a bivouac within a wooded area..................................
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Re: Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

Post by tigre » Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:42 am

Hello to all :D; a little more...........................

Standard white cross and art!.

Source: http: //odkrywca.pl/panzer-1939-czesc-11,687400.html#687400

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A Pz Kw II with the white cross (half removed) is seen at the center of the turret and a painting of a skull (Totenkopf) on the forward hatch; some damage also can be observed...............
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Re: Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

Post by tigre » Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:10 pm

Hello to all :D; a little more.............................

Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

Something I've found in the web: here is shown the marking and numbering system, let me point out the white cross and numbers in the turret of PR 1 (1. Pz) and the two number code in the turret of the 5. Pz............

Source: http://www.ipmsdeutschland.de/FirstLook ... 014_02.jpg

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Re: Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

Post by tigre » Fri Aug 05, 2016 1:09 pm

Hello to all :D; a little more.............................

Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

Source: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-f7O3gWPfFu8/ ... 2%2529.JPG

Cheers. Raúl M 8).
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Marking in a tank of the 1st Battalion, PR 1 of the 1. Pz in 1939.........................................
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Post by tigre » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:48 am

Hello to all :D; a little more.............................

Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

Contrast, before and after.

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Armored column of PR 7 in East Prussia before the 1939 campaign; In the foreground a Panzerbefehlswagen I (Sd Kfz 265) and behind a Pz Kw II Ausf. a/b with the typical white cross.........................................

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Same column later/after the campaign; the white cross was erased in the Panzerbefehlwagen I and in the other tanks the cross is notoriously more stylized.............................................

Source: http://odkrywca.pl/panzer-1939-czesc-11 ... tml#687400

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Re: Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

Post by tigre » Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:06 pm

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Pz Kw II in action in Poland 1939 !

Source: https://www.ebay.de/itm/P410-Foto-Wehrm ... 7675.l2557

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A pair of Pz Kw II with a particular white cross (painted in the field); as seen, the size was reduced and removed from the center of the turret. Besides a much smaller cross was painted on the original on the sides of it ..................
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Re: Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

Post by Prosper Vandenbroucke » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:04 am

Hello Raul
White ‘’Balkenkreuz’’ on an PzKfw during the polish campaign of 1939
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Pz.Kpfw 7TP (p) in service in Wehrmacht, surely the tank of command of this platoon of Panzer I.
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Re: Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

Post by tigre » Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:35 pm

Thanks Prosper, great pictures :wink:. Cheers. Raúl M 8)
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Re: Marking in the German tanks - Poland 1939.

Post by tigre » Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:58 pm

Hello to all :D; talking about aiming point......................

Pz Kw I in action - Poland 1939!

Source: https://scalezilla.org/category/other/photo/

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Close view of a Pz Kw I where the impact on the white cross painted on its front is clearly observed.........
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