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4 Panzer Division 1941
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:48 pm
by RobertH
Hello everyone,
I am looking for the name of the Ic officer during the initial period of war of operation Barbarossa. I went through most of the files of 4 Panzer Division on microfilm, most known books (neumann, SR33, SR12, AR103, etc), but untill now I can not find the name of this perticular officer. Any suggestion for (unconventional) ways to retrieve the name?
I have the name of the Ia and the Ib, but Ic is more critical for my research.
Thanks and regards,
Robert
Re: 4 Panzer Division 1941
Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:02 pm
by Jan-Hendrik
The latter DKiS-Träger Lt./Hptm
Jörg von Götz und Schwanenfließ (from 6.11.40-00.00.45)...per Scherzer
Jan-Hendrik
Re: 4 Panzer Division 1941
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:13 am
by Jerry
Well, FWIW Wegmann/Zweng have something a bit different:
27.04.40 - Hptm Albrecht Kleinschmidt
06.11.44 - Hptm Jörg v.Goetz u Schwanenfleiß
01.02.45 - Olt. Papst
Jerry
Re: 4 Panzer Division 1941
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:28 am
by Jan-Hendrik
I rather trust Scherzer, his research is more actual, wider spread and more in deep then the Wegmann/Zweng editions
Jan-Hendrik
Re: 4 Panzer Division 1941
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:00 pm
by RobertH
Thanks you both for replying! Now I can continue again.
Many thanks,
Robert
Re: 4 Panzer Division 1941
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:14 am
by Jan-Hendrik
According to his Karteikarte Kleinschmit was Ic from April 1940 till July 1942
Jan-Hendrik
Re: 4 Panzer Division 1941
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:50 am
by Jerry
Jan-Hendrik wrote:According to his Karteikarte Kleinschmit was Ic from April 1940 till July 1942
Jan-Hendrik
So, Scherzer is wrong and (gasp!) Wegmann/Zweng is correct...hummm.
Well, more correct anyway.
Jerry
Re: 4 Panzer Division 1941
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:54 am
by Jan-Hendrik
Well, I give up to trust anyone but primary sources
Jan-Hendrik
Re: 4 Panzer Division 1941
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:17 am
by Jerry
Yes indeed!
Jerry
Re: 4 Panzer Division 1941
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 11:36 pm
by Jan-Hendrik
A good source online is this one by the Kameradschaft of Pz.Rgt.35:
http://panzerregiment35.blogspot.com/
Jan-Hendrik
Re: 4 Panzer Division 1941
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 5:29 am
by Jerry
Yes, an excellent source J-H, thanks for sharing.
Jerry
Re: 4 Panzer Division 1941
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:25 am
by RobertH
Thanks! The photos are excellent!