4 Panzer Division 1941

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Hello everyone,

I am looking for the name of the Ic officer during the initial period of war of operation Barbarossa. I went through most of the files of 4 Panzer Division on microfilm, most known books (neumann, SR33, SR12, AR103, etc), but untill now I can not find the name of this perticular officer. Any suggestion for (unconventional) ways to retrieve the name?

I have the name of the Ia and the Ib, but Ic is more critical for my research.

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The latter DKiS-Träger Lt./Hptm Jörg von Götz und Schwanenfließ (from 6.11.40-00.00.45)...per Scherzer :wink:

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Well, FWIW Wegmann/Zweng have something a bit different:

27.04.40 - Hptm Albrecht Kleinschmidt
06.11.44 - Hptm Jörg v.Goetz u Schwanenfleiß
01.02.45 - Olt. Papst

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I rather trust Scherzer, his research is more actual, wider spread and more in deep then the Wegmann/Zweng editions :wink:

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Thanks you both for replying! Now I can continue again.

Many thanks,

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According to his Karteikarte Kleinschmit was Ic from April 1940 till July 1942 :idea:

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Jan-Hendrik wrote:According to his Karteikarte Kleinschmit was Ic from April 1940 till July 1942 :idea:

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So, Scherzer is wrong and (gasp!) Wegmann/Zweng is correct...hummm. :shock: Well, more correct anyway.


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Well, I give up to trust anyone but primary sources :D :beer:

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:beer: Yes indeed!

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A good source online is this one by the Kameradschaft of Pz.Rgt.35:

http://panzerregiment35.blogspot.com/

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Yes, an excellent source J-H, thanks for sharing.

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Thanks! The photos are excellent!
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