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LXXXIV CORPS TROOPS

Post by WAKEN » Tue May 17, 2011 11:20 am

I have recently acquired some scanned images of original German reports from 1944. One of them shows the corps troops under LXXXIV.Armee-Korps dated 1.4.44. It shows the following units under z.b.V Rgt 752 (Oberst Kessler):

Georg Btl 797
Ost Btl 281
II./Sich.Rgt.521

Underneath that entry, and I presume not part of z.b.V Rgt 752; there is also II./Sich.Rgt.195

Questions:

1. Does anybody know where these units were stationed?
2. Does anybody know if these units were still under LXXXIV.Armee-Korps command on D-Day?

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Re: LXXXIV CORPS TROOPS

Post by Jan » Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:43 pm

Hi
Korpstruppen LXXXIV.AK 01.06.1944:
Korps-Kartenstelle 484
le.Beob.Btl.33 (mot.)
ARKO 118
ARKO 474
Fest.-Pi.Reg.Stab 11
Korps-Nachr.Abt.460 (mot.)
Kdr.d.Korpsnachschubtruppen 460
II./Sich.Reg.195 (ex. Lds.Btl.849), Thury-Harcourt
Feldgendarmerie-Kp.460 (mot.)
Geheime-Feldpolizei-Zug
le.Pz.Zug 507
Fest.-Stammtruppen LXXXIV.AK

Ost-Gren.Reg.z.b.V.752 Gr.Granville
--Ost.Art.Abt.752
--Ost-Pi.Kp.752
--Ost-Btl.797 (IV./Gren.Reg.919) Gouville (2.Kp. by St.Ló d´Ourville)
--Sich.Btl.521 vicinity Granville
--Ost-Btl.635
--1.Kp./Pi.Btl.319

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Post by Leo Niehorster » Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:51 am

Please see here:
Gen.Kdo. LXXXIV. AK

@ Jan
My sources seem to be incomplete. :oops:
Would you be so kind as to answer some questions regarding
Ost-Gren.Reg.z.b.V.752?
-- I found this regiment detached to 243. Infanterie-Division (bo). Any idea when this happened, or how long?

--Ost.Art.Abt.752
Do your sources indicate the batteries and their artillery equipment?

--1.Kp./Pi.Btl.319?
Interesting. Where did this data come from?

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Re: LXXXIV CORPS TROOPS

Post by Jan » Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:26 am

Hello
I know not when the regiment of the 243.Inf.Div. was assumed. This is not shown in my records. When the regiment was subordinated to the Division used in the 243.Inf.Div. many more units still in question.


A breakdown of from later June shows this unit as a Pi.Btl. with 3 companies replaced by a 3 batteries.
On 9 June it was referred to as an Art.Abt... I know not how the Dept. was armed.


I can not say where the information came you. It the attempt of a summary of the outlines of OB West. I gained a few years ago of a 150 page transcript.

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Post by Leo Niehorster » Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:58 am

@ Jan
Is the 150 page document Richard Anderson's "Ration strength od the 7-Armee?"

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Re: LXXXIV CORPS TROOPS

Post by Jan » Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:56 am

No
it is: Annotated Order of Battle of the Wehrmacht in the West circa 1 June 1944
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Re: LXXXIV CORPS TROOPS

Post by WAKEN » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:58 am

Jan and Leo,

Thanks for your posts. Since I posted my initial query Richard Anderson was kind enough to send me his document on OB West on 1.6.44. That shows the composition of Ost Gren Regt z.b.V 752 as:

II./Sich Regt 521
Ost Btl 635
Ost Btl 797 (Georgian, minus 2. Komp)
1.Pi Btl 319

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Re: LXXXIV CORPS TROOPS

Post by Rich » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:58 pm

Jan wrote:No
it is: Annotated Order of Battle of the Wehrmacht in the West circa 1 June 1944
Jan
Same document, different version and title Jan. :D

It appears that Ost-Gren.-Regt. z.b.V. 752 was created specifically to fill the coastal defenses on the west coast of the Cotentin between the Brest and St. Malo fortified zones. Its composition changed a couple of times and the designations of its units appear to have been given in different ways too, so it is rather confusing.

Ost-Gren.-Regt. z.b.V. 752, Gefechtsstand – Gavray, Kdr.: Oberst Kessler

Ost-Art.-Btl. 752 This is the most confusing unit. It was incorporated into Ost-Gren.-Regt. z.b.V. 752 in April. A Gliderung from later in June shows this unit as a Pi.-Btl. with 3.Kp. replaced by a 3.Bttr. On 9 June it was referred to as an “Art.-Abtl.”

Ost-Pi.-Kp. 752

Sich.-Btl. 521, Gefechtsstand – vicinity Granville, Kdr: Major Franz Falk, 1.-4. Kp.

Ost-Btl. 635, Gefechtsstand – St. Nicolas (east of Granville), 1.Kp. – Douville (northeast of Granville), 2.Kp. – St. Nicolas, 3.Kp. – St. Pair (south of Granville), 4.Kp. – Queron (7 kilometers south of Granville)

Ost-Btl. 797 (Georgiches) (I./Gren.Regt. 739) (minus 2. Kp., the battalion was attached from Inf.-Div. 709), Gefechtsstand – Gouville (12 kilometers northwest of Coutances), 3.Kp. – Montmartin (8 kilometers southwest of Coutances)

1./Pi.-Btl. 319 (was attached from 319. Inf.-Div.)

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Re: LXXXIV CORPS TROOPS

Post by MadDog » Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:30 pm

I bumped into Ost.Art.Abt.752 in a couple of places and I was never sure what to make of it:

T78 R418
(6387907)

T311 R030 (Heeresgroup D)
Sept 23 (7036904)


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Re: LXXXIV CORPS TROOPS

Post by WAKEN » Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:59 am

A Google search for Ost Art Abt 752 takes you to this: http://bunkersite.com/locations/france/ ... hoofd.html

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Re: LXXXIV CORPS TROOPS

Post by Leo Niehorster » Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:53 am

10,5 cm K18/40 (r) ?? :shock:

Should read 10,5cm leFH 18/40.
The 275. Artillerie-Regiment had nine batteries of light field howitzers, and three of heavy field howitzers. None with 10,5cm guns.

Would be

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Re: LXXXIV CORPS TROOPS

Post by WAKEN » Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:37 pm

Leo,

Has to be leFH 18/40 as you say.

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Neil

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