jimmyfatwing wrote:
Understand your comments about the 12/13 year olds, though I don't think age is the key factor....I think training is the factor. If you never have any verbal in training and it's not part of your upbringing you may well freeze the first time somebody calls you an #$*& in anger. Think that goes for a 43 year old as well as a kid. Same with a non compliant uke. Though this is off topic for sure so I'll drag it back to WW2.
Ave jimmyfatwing,
yes, I am sorry for getting us away from the original topic, but I must clarify one more time.
I didn't mean that they were poor fighters because they were young or unathletic, that doesn't really matter. I was using them as examples of Blackbelts who really aren't fighters. In many martial arts with many teachers, you can be trained up through blackbelt and still be beaten by Jon Doe in a street fight. I will compare it to dancing again. You can know the movements but be totally out of sync with the music. In martial arts, in order to apply it you have to know the motions well enough to be able to devote yourself to the music. "Water can flow, and it can crash. You must be water, my friend."
Oh jeez, sorry for all this mystical mumbo jumbo. It is easier to give a demonstration than to try to explain it. When discussing mindlessness all one can do is speak in metaphors and sound like a fruitcake. Sorry.
But back on topic. Judo seems to have been recognized by western militaries before many other martial arts. I was reading about the American "Devil's Brigade" and they described some techniques that sounded like some Judo moves.
Vale,
-Spandau
If you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze into you.