Waffen-SS Kragenspiegel/Colla Tabs

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Waffen-SS Kragenspiegel/Colla Tabs

Post by kahl » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:19 am

Can ANY tell me what this Colla tabs is and what unit it belongs to?

I just got my hands in a Waffen-SS photo dated 12.1.40 and I just cant figure out what that is.
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Re: Waffen-SS Kragenspiegel/Colla Tabs

Post by kahl » Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:23 am

Same phot, the other man.... Same Colla tabs..
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Re: Waffen-SS Kragenspiegel/Colla Tabs

Post by kahl » Fri Oct 15, 2010 12:39 pm

No help at all??? :roll:

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Re: Waffen-SS Kragenspiegel/Colla Tabs

Post by ealdwita » Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:09 pm

I think I may have made some sense out of this.......

The photo must be dated 1938/early 1939 judging by the shoulder straps. The strange inclusion on the collar tabs are I think, the badge of the SA-Standarte Feldherrnhalle. I know that after the death of Roehm, the best of the SA were put under Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe control, but how those emblems got on to SS tabs, I don't yet know! (Unofficial perhaps?)

I seem to have hit a wall on this one - can anyone else take it? I'll keep trying.

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Re: Waffen-SS Kragenspiegel/Colla Tabs

Post by kahl » Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:48 pm

Hey Ealdwita!

Thank you for the explanations... I have been surfing after I saw your reply to post and found this:

Panzer Corps Feldherrnhalle (Germany)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_Cor ... Germany%29


I will also post the full photo I have, front and back, I hope that that will help a little. Regarding the info I had with the picture, the man to the left went into SS-Division "Wiking" in the war. His name is SS-Hauptscharführer Otto Georg Breitfeld, SS-Nr. 266 313
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Re: Waffen-SS Kragenspiegel/Colla Tabs

Post by kahl » Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:02 pm

I found this on the net, and the strange inclusion on the collar tabs, looks a lot like this, dosen't it?

The Wolfsangel rune.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfsangel
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In Nazi Germany, the Wolfsangel was used by:

* the 2. SS Division Das Reich
* the 4. SS Polizei Division
* the 34. SS Volunteer Grenadier Division Landstorm Nederland
* the 60. Panzergrenadier-Division "Feldherrnhalle"
* the Sturmabteilung "Feldherrnhalle" Wachstandart Kampfrunen (Assault Unit—SA--"Warlord’s Hall" Guard Regiment
* the Hitlerjugend
* the NS-Volkswohlfahrt
* Werwölfe (Werewolves)

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Re: Waffen-SS Kragenspiegel/Colla Tabs

Post by awaygood » Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:04 pm

The collar patch shows a pair of SS runes together with a lightning flash, indicating membership of the SS-Nachrichtensturnmbann. The pointed shoulder strap is the second pattern worn by other ranks (enlisted men) in the SS-Verfugungstruppe (SS-VT) between 1933 and 1939. The single pip worn on the man's left-hand collar patch indicates the rank of SS-Unterscharfuhrer, the lowest NCO rank. The SS-Nachrichtensturmbanne was the SS-VT's signals battalion, formed during 1934/5.

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Re: Waffen-SS Kragenspiegel/Colla Tabs

Post by kahl » Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:17 pm

Thank you verry mutch awaygood§ :up:

And this person in that thread was also in Wiking later on.

Found this photo on a other thread at Feldgrau.net:
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Re: Waffen-SS Kragenspiegel/Colla Tabs

Post by kahl » Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:38 pm

Hey awaygood!

You are right about the colla tabs.. It is SS-Nachrichten Sturmbann..... :D

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