Feldgrau Forum Photo Riddle ?

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Back to the "dancer"...

She's not playing a swan, by any chance???
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Waleed,I know that Mata Hari was Dutch,this woman was much lesser known,is that picture Peter Ustinov?
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Peter Ustinov is correct but the hint is not nessesarily him...

A swan dance... :shock: You lost me there Phylo. Have no idea, think its just a pose for a Paris photographer.


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I am going to make a wild guess: is it Nadia Benois, Peter Ustinov's mother?? She was an artist and ballet designer of Russian, French, and Italian heritage. She was the wife of Peter Ustinov's father, Jona Baron von Ustinov aka "Klop", who worked for MI5 and may have been Agent U35 who provided Great Britain with the German invasion plans for Czechoslovakia.
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A good guess indeed although not exactly what I am looking for as it is not the mother.
The father Klop and not Peter is the correct link here. He was (MI5) Russian emigrant agent U35
(also under suspicion of being a "red or white" double agent).

Yes, we are on the right track now with the spying, double agents and even triple agents...
My mystery lady was indeed an agent for no less than 3 different organisations.
Starting in the late 20s early 30s, continued during WW2 and MAYBE post war too.
The latter has still to be proven and the files are still CLOSED!


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I think the woman is Vera Chalbur aka Vera Erikson.
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And we almost have a winner :up:

BUT!!!!! as I initially asked with very small letters under the picture...
real name is the important one here!
Chalbur or Erikson are not quite correct for this "beautiful spy", so here's a last hint
besides the one I have just given :wink:

Look for my very first riddle entry back in 2006. She's the younger sister! :shock:


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Aha! Vera von Schalburg is her real name!
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Yes Paul. Now we HAVE a winner!
She is non less than the sister of SS-Obersturmbannführer C.F. von Schalburg.
AKA "The beautiful spy", Chalbur, Chalburg, Shalberg, De Cottani, Erikson (also spelled Eriksen, and Erichsen),
von Wedel and Starizky, maybe even de Widde.

Arrested on the 30 September 1940 in Portgordon, Scotland working for Abwehr.
Unlike her two accomplices who are executed she survived the war (as the only female spy caught on English soil).
She is debriefed by Klop Ustinov and finally works for MI5/MI6. She disappears in 1945.

All yours Paul.


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Re: Feldgrau Forum Photo Riddle ?

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Thanks Waleed, an excellent riddle that was :D

In this next riddle the correct answer will be an event that happened during WW II. To help you find the right one among the billions of events that together are the war you will get to see photo's of people and places, at first quite remotely connected though certainly relevant but later on very directly connected to the event I'm looking for.

So here's the first person, a woman again:

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If you know who she is you will be well on your way to solving the riddle

Good luck!
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Some more info then, this woman has travelled a lot but there are three places that she visited that link her to the event I'm looking for:

City 1,

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City 2,

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City 3,

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Her visit to these cities will lead to a name that is very directly relevant to the event in WW II that is the object of this riddle.
Can't find her? No worries, after this we'll start looking at men. Men in uniforms no less!

Good luck.
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Found the face, located the cities... Now all I have to do is do
some research into her and WWII.

Will be back!


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So Waleed is on the right track (presumably at least)

Here's the woman again, dressed more suitably for this riddle:

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And two gentlemen in uniforms. Though they were not personally involved in the sought after event they are very directly (at least in hiërarchical manner) linked to the main subject of the event.

Officer A:

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Officer B:

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Linking these three persons should get you very close to the answer.
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Re: Feldgrau Forum Photo Riddle ?

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Let's see what response this will give :?

The Mechelen Incident of 10 January, 1940...?


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Re: Feldgrau Forum Photo Riddle ?

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Spot on Waleed!! :D

The Mechelen incident happened on 10 january 1940 when two German officers crashlanded in Belgium carrying the complete Fall Gelb plans and letting them fall in hands of the Belgians.

The woman is Elly Eisborn who flew a record in 1936 by flying over three continents from Berlin to Budapest then on to Damascus (City 1) where the record attempt officialy started through to Cairo (City 2) for the second continent and then back to Budapet (City 3) for completion of the record.
She did this in a Me-108 that bore the name “Taifun” which became the official nickname for all Me-108’s from then on.

The next clues would have been pictures of the two officers that crashed, Major Erich Hoenmanns and Major Helmuth Reinberger.

Reinberger was on the planningstaff of 7. Flieger-Division (at that time commanded by Kurt Student, Officer B) and was supposed to bring the documents by train to the staff of Luftflotte 2 (at that time commanded by Hellmuth Felmy, Officer B)

Reinberger met his old friend Hoenmanns on the airbase Loddenheide near Münster on 9 january and told him of his planned trainride to Köln the next day (pictures of the trainstations at Münster and Köln would have been the clues after the officers) and Hoenmanns offered to fly him there, giving himself the opportunity to visit his wife in Köln.
Reinberger accepted and the next morning the two officers climbed into an Me-108 "Taifun" and proceeded to get lost in fog and thick clouds ending up over Belgium and finally in Belgium leaving the Taifun looking like this:

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Over to you Waleed.
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