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Sid, IF for once you care to read a post of mine corrctly, I've agreed with this! BUT this is not the full story - only HALF of what the name "Barcelona" conjures out of the records. Through the summer of 1939 and the subsequent autumn, Yes this information provided "expert" information from the Air Ministry to the Cabinet for damage and casualties that could be expected from the anticipated "aerial offensive" - but also the events of January 21-26 1939 in Barcelona and the breakdown of law and order, the handling of refugees, the destruction of utilites etc. were EQUALLY on the minds of politicians. Damage from air attack on buildings and people is only half the story after all - the OTHER side is whether or not they make the target city/area/country ungovernable or destroy the necessities of life for survivors to the point at which a government has to sue for peace.The first Barcelona raid was the defining measure used by the British Air Ministry in calculating the likely number of casualties if preparations were not made and informed its advice to politicians on how many shelters were needed, how many beds should be prepared, who and how many to evacuate, etc.
Nothing general about it - the Government was concerned with "the continuance of life and the nation's life" (wish I could remember who said that) of which dealing with the immediate effects of bombing was only a part.You are obscuring my point with generalities
Sid, what part of "Sid, IF for once you care to read a post of mine corrctly, I've agreed with this!" is unclear? BUT, similarly unclear must me...No doubt it added to existing concerns, but it was not the turning point that the first Barcelona was on the professional analysis front or that Guernica was on the propaganda front
BUT this is not the full story
Sid, believe me, if you care to reasearch this properly - they didn't need any further motivation. They were as I said by then as much concerned with the breakdown of law and order, and the continuation of government and the welfare of the people post-attack as they were with immediate damage and casualties.as a worst case scenario in order to motivate the politicians to take countermeasures.
....and that was only the FIRST of such implementations; Barcelona I and several intelligence reports led to the Deep Shelter programme - the fall of Barcelona led eventually with other factors to its [cancellation and the allocation into "pure" Civil Defence and a VAST extension of the ARP services and rescue services. AND in Parliament achieved a MUCH higher profile - and In Churchill's National Government - there having been two Labour MPS in Barcelona only hours before its capitulation.January 1939 is after the civil defence measures provoked by the first Barcelona raid were implemented in the UK and elsewhere
At the same time I believe around the time of the Fighter Pilots' Revolt the Gestapo began investigating Galland and Hitler allegedly told Himmler to call them off, saying "He's one of us!" (So you can argue he was a dedicated National Socialist he just didn't share some of its principles such as rabid anti-Semitism somewhat similar to Rommel [most people tend to hold very overgeneralized/cookie-cutter images of Nazis in my opinion; there was diversity as in any group especially if you go back to earlier figures such as Gregor Strasser, Ernst Roehm, and others).M.H. wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:32 amPS: I don't want to shove down ones throat one viewpoint or the other...
But if you think about it that the propaganda WWII started much earlier then 1939 and Guernica was made to such a symbol of german maliciousness...why not hear the other side for once too?
Especially as Adolf Galland never was a Nazi but respected by friends and foes alike!