African German Soldiers?

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African German Soldiers?

Post by Heerss » Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:45 am

There is a saying there is no such thing as an African German soldier during wwII,how true is this saying?
I knew of Aficans being present in Germany after wwI & there where some Africans serving under foreign volunteers under german badges but where there any Africans that served with the real German army? ect..Heer,Wehrmacht?

Most foreign non German volunteers (Africans,Muslim,Chinese/Japanese) wore soft hats & never wore the hard German helmets like the Heer and Werhmacht wore.

I'd found this photograpgh of a full African (that looks like he is wearing the common German uniform) with a standard german hard helmet which only offical German soilders wore.
I would like to know more on this guy,and if it is a real ww2 photo and not a fake photoshop photo,thank you.
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Post by Alex Dekker » Sun Aug 15, 2010 12:33 pm

There seem to be black africans who served as drivers for the NSKK, but so far I haven't seen any pics or evidence so far. I just heard the rumour. :x
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Post by Richard Schoutissen » Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:06 am

Just a few examples but the are plenty more !!
Alex Dekker wrote:There seem to be black africans who served as drivers for the NSKK, but so far I haven't seen any pics or evidence so far. I just heard the rumour. :x
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Re: African German Soldiers?

Post by Heerss » Sat Oct 16, 2010 8:22 am

The first photo (posted under the third post) was he actually serving under the werhmacht or was he serving under the African empire units under control by Germans?

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Post by Alanmccoubrey » Sat Oct 16, 2010 11:39 am

Heerss wrote:Most foreign non German volunteers (Africans,Muslim,Chinese/Japanese) wore soft hats & never wore the hard German helmets like the Heer and Werhmacht wore.
I'm sorry but that is just not true, all troops were issued with the "hard German helmet" regardless of their nationality, the pictures posted of the Arabs show that. The same helmets were also issued to Hungarian and Romanian troops .

The Heer was part of the Wehrmacht incidentally.
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Re: African German Soldiers?

Post by mconrad » Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:33 am

Heerss wrote:The first photo (posted under the third post) was he actually serving under the werhmacht or was he serving under the African empire units under control by Germans?
What African empire?

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Post by panzermahn » Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:08 am

There is a black Frenchman (Norbert Desire) who enlisted in LVF and fought during the Moscow battles in 1941. In 1944 after LVF was disbanded, he apply to join the Charlemagne Waffen SS division but was turned down due to the colour of his skin.

There is a black Gestapo agent (a Frenchman) operating in Marseilles from 1942-45. He was "epurated" in May or June 1945

There is also a black Abwehr agent operating in South America, working for the Hamburg Ast station. He was caught in 1944 and was handed over to the FBI

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Re: African German Soldiers?

Post by Heerss » Sat Oct 20, 2012 1:28 am

Those Africans are French soldiers that happen to wined up as soldiers within German army?

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Re: African German Soldiers?

Post by Rolf Steiner » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:19 pm

Pretty sure I've seen a documentary on this subject, probably aired more than 10 years ago. People originating from Imperial Germany's limited colonial territories, safest option during NSDAP period to enlist... would love to see it again.
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