I just finished "Campaign in Russia" by Degrelle. It is a pretty decent book. The prose is quite good. Probably the best of any WWII memoir I have read so far. He presents his Walloons as Boy Scouts. Were they ever accused or suspected of atrocities? Most other accounts credit them as hard fighters.
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To live and shame the land from which we sprung.
Life, to be sure, is nothing much to lose;
But young men think it is, and we were young.
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I didn't say I admired Degrelle, I said his prose was good. However, if he didn't idolize Hitler so much, I probably would respect him more. I like his railings against corrupt politicians and business, though.
Peace out,
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Peace out,
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Here dead lie we because we did not choose
To live and shame the land from which we sprung.
Life, to be sure, is nothing much to lose;
But young men think it is, and we were young.
Here Dead Lie We by A.E. Houseman
To live and shame the land from which we sprung.
Life, to be sure, is nothing much to lose;
But young men think it is, and we were young.
Here Dead Lie We by A.E. Houseman
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" He even denied the Holocaust "...Good gracious, could we not get into this subject, on this forum. Please??domitian wrote:O yes he was idolising Hitler very well. He even denied the Holocaust. So when he can't even aknowledge true historical facts than he isn't a very reliable source for other things he's wrinting about.
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The reason I started this topic was for information about the Walloons. I know enough not take as gospel a book written by somebody like Degrelle. I think my posts speak for themselves, I am not a fascist, rexist or nazi. I simply asked if the walloons were as clean as portrayed in the book. If you can't help me out, don't respond.
Peace out,
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Peace out,
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Here dead lie we because we did not choose
To live and shame the land from which we sprung.
Life, to be sure, is nothing much to lose;
But young men think it is, and we were young.
Here Dead Lie We by A.E. Houseman
To live and shame the land from which we sprung.
Life, to be sure, is nothing much to lose;
But young men think it is, and we were young.
Here Dead Lie We by A.E. Houseman
Re: Degrelle
Hello Kordts,kordts wrote:The reason I started this topic was for information about the Walloons. I know enough not take as gospel a book written by somebody like Degrelle. I think my posts speak for themselves, I am not a fascist, rexist or nazi. I simply asked if the walloons were as clean as portrayed in the book. If you can't help me out, don't respond.
Peace out,
Kordts
I appreciated your reply and clarification. I just added my two cents' worth as a reply to another poster who mentioned the...holocaust. Out of context here as far as I'm concerned.
A good read about the Walloons is a book written by Eddy De Bruyne, titled " Les Wallons meurent à l'Est - Degrelle et les légionnaires Wallons au front Russe, 1941 - 1945"
Unfortunately in french only, unless there is an english translation available?
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Re: Degrelle
Hello Kordts,geisa wrote:Hello Kordts,kordts wrote:The reason I started this topic was for information about the Walloons. I know enough not take as gospel a book written by somebody like Degrelle. I think my posts speak for themselves, I am not a fascist, rexist or nazi. I simply asked if the walloons were as clean as portrayed in the book. If you can't help me out, don't respond.
Peace out,
Kordts
I appreciated your reply and clarification. I just added my two cents' worth as a reply to another poster who mentioned the...holocaust. Out of context here as far as I'm concerned.
A good read about the Walloons is a book written by Eddy De Bruyne, titled " Les Wallons meurent à l'Est - Degrelle et les légionnaires Wallons au front Russe, 1941 - 1945"
Unfortunately in french only, unless there is an english translation available?
Happy New Year!
Joe
I agree with Geisa. Eddy De Bruyne's book is very well and explicite.
And so far as I know ( Eddy can confirm I think ) the Walloon volunteers of the ''Légion Wallonie'' where never suspected or accused of any atrocities at all during the russian campaign. I can't say it where Boy Scouts but they where fighting very well and they had many losses.
Attention, I don't caution their choice to fight with the Germans but for the most of them it was their idiology to fight against Bolchewisme that push them to do it
I beg your pardon for my poor english
Happy New Year everybody
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Prosper and geisa,
thanks for the enlightening replies. Degrelle basically says that he fought to help ensure that Belgium would have a little leeway with Germany and hopefully independance in the future.
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Kordts
thanks for the enlightening replies. Degrelle basically says that he fought to help ensure that Belgium would have a little leeway with Germany and hopefully independance in the future.
Peace out,
Kordts
Here dead lie we because we did not choose
To live and shame the land from which we sprung.
Life, to be sure, is nothing much to lose;
But young men think it is, and we were young.
Here Dead Lie We by A.E. Houseman
To live and shame the land from which we sprung.
Life, to be sure, is nothing much to lose;
But young men think it is, and we were young.
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Hi Kordts,kordts wrote:Prosper and geisa,
thanks for the enlightening replies. Degrelle basically says that he fought to help ensure that Belgium would have a little leeway with Germany and hopefully independance in the future.
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Kordts
That's right about Degrelle. But it was only a dream. He thought that after the war, he will be the leader of '' La Grande Bourgogne'' a country including Belgium, a part of France and a part of the Netherlands.
Kindly regards from Belgium
Prosper
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Is Degrelle pretty much reviled in Belgium? How are the veterans treated?
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Life, to be sure, is nothing much to lose;
But young men think it is, and we were young.
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ah, but since Degrelle lived in Spain for more than 50 years until his death in 1994, do Spaniards admire him, etc? Ah, and heh heh, in Spain, they have a "Friends of Leon Degrelle Cultural Association". Their site is http://www.leondegrelle.org, which is full of his writings, but it is not racist, neo nazi, etc. 
rare......
anyway, you claim that Degrelle fought for his dreams of ruling Belgium. False, may I correct you, in his article "The Story of the Waffen SS", which is available for vieweing on the link I provided, he says that he fought for European culture against the Soviet Union, and for a Europe he claimed that would extend all the way to Vladivastok
just my 2 cents, please don't take it politically 
helmut
rare......anyway, you claim that Degrelle fought for his dreams of ruling Belgium. False, may I correct you, in his article "The Story of the Waffen SS", which is available for vieweing on the link I provided, he says that he fought for European culture against the Soviet Union, and for a Europe he claimed that would extend all the way to Vladivastok
just my 2 cents, please don't take it politically helmut