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Addition
Commander:
Finn Finson 6/1/43-11/2/43?
Fritz Vogt 11/2/43-1/3/45 (KiA 4/3/45)
?? Haas 1/3/45-?/3/45
Werner Radke ?/3/45-8/5/45
Jan
SS-Pz.Gren.Rgt 23 "NORGE"
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Re: SS-Pz.Gren.Rgt 23 "NORGE"
Hello!
Are you sure that Ostuf Radke formally was commanding I./Norge?
Vogt commanded I.Norge until 1.3.45, and then a Stubaf Barth succeeded him, according to Michaelis.
it does also say that Radke commanded the remains of the I./Norge, so at least unofficially he was the last commander.
Who was Haas?
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Are you sure that Ostuf Radke formally was commanding I./Norge?
Vogt commanded I.Norge until 1.3.45, and then a Stubaf Barth succeeded him, according to Michaelis.
it does also say that Radke commanded the remains of the I./Norge, so at least unofficially he was the last commander.
Who was Haas?
B
Re: SS-Pz.Gren.Rgt 23 "NORGE"
Hi
Sorry not Haas
Haase!!
Hstuf.Haase was Kp.Fhr. from 1.Kp. in Nov.1944
Ostuf.Werner Radtke was Kp.Fhr. from 1.Kp. in Feb.1945 and then Btl.Fhr. I./Norge not Kdr.
sorry
Jan
Sorry not Haas
Haase!!
Hstuf.Haase was Kp.Fhr. from 1.Kp. in Nov.1944
Ostuf.Werner Radtke was Kp.Fhr. from 1.Kp. in Feb.1945 and then Btl.Fhr. I./Norge not Kdr.
sorry
Jan
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Re: SS-Pz.Gren.Rgt 23 "NORGE"
In the small booklet on I./Norge both Amund Enger and Karl Martini stated, that after Vogt was KIA his Adj. Radtke took over as Batallionsführer.
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Re: SS-Pz.Gren.Rgt 23 "NORGE"
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Werner Radke ?/1/45-?/?/45 Btl.Adj.
20/2/45-?/?/45 Führer 1.Kp./I.Btl./Reg.Norge
?/3/45-8/5/45 Führer I.Btl./Reg.Norge
Jan
Werner Radke ?/1/45-?/?/45 Btl.Adj.
20/2/45-?/?/45 Führer 1.Kp./I.Btl./Reg.Norge
?/3/45-8/5/45 Führer I.Btl./Reg.Norge
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From the files of german red cross I found that Hstuf. Helmut GUTOWSKI (DKiG with 7./Germania 1943) took charge of I./Norge sometime in april 1945 and on his POW card writes that he was a Kdr. of I./Norge until the capitulation on 7.5.45. But there seems to be an unknown Stubaf between VOGT (when he was releaved of command in March 1945 at Urkut/Hungary) and GUTOWSKI who by Herbert MALLIS are called BARTH - but there is nobody in the Führerliste by this name.
The veterans clerly remembers this Stubaf who must have had little or no experience from frontline duties. The norwegians within the Nachrichtenzug on the Funkgeräte remebers that he did not understand that the messagens through wireless must be coded to the division. This Stubaf was decribed by veterans as total useless... Therefore GUTOWSKI may have replaced him on orders from GILLE or ULLRICH. Unfortunately his name are schrouded in mysteri if not anyone here can have some valuable information.....
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From the files of german red cross I found that Hstuf. Helmut GUTOWSKI (DKiG with 7./Germania 1943) took charge of I./Norge sometime in april 1945 and on his POW card writes that he was a Kdr. of I./Norge until the capitulation on 7.5.45. But there seems to be an unknown Stubaf between VOGT (when he was releaved of command in March 1945 at Urkut/Hungary) and GUTOWSKI who by Herbert MALLIS are called BARTH - but there is nobody in the Führerliste by this name.
The veterans clerly remembers this Stubaf who must have had little or no experience from frontline duties. The norwegians within the Nachrichtenzug on the Funkgeräte remebers that he did not understand that the messagens through wireless must be coded to the division. This Stubaf was decribed by veterans as total useless... Therefore GUTOWSKI may have replaced him on orders from GILLE or ULLRICH. Unfortunately his name are schrouded in mysteri if not anyone here can have some valuable information.....
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Re: SS-Pz.Gren.Rgt 23 "NORGE"
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I think nothing about the man.
Jan
I think nothing about the man.
Jan
Re: SS-Pz.Gren.Rgt 23 "NORGE"
Very interesting!
Has he had little frontline experience, could it have been one of these?
BARTH, Dr. jur. Horst
(1890 - 1961)
SS-Obersturbannfuhrer/Leutnant d.R. a.D
Served at RSHA.
BARTH, Prof. Dr. Hermann
(-)
SS-Obersturmbannführer:
Born:
Died:
NSDAP-Nr.:
SS-Nr.:
Promotions:
SS-Obersturmbannführer:
SS-Sturmbannführer:
SS-Hauptsturmführer:
SS-Obersturmführer:
SS-Untersturmführer:
Career:
Decorations & Awards:
BARTH, Dr. Rudolf
(-)
SS-Obersturmbannführer:
Born:
Died:
NSDAP-Nr.: /SS-Nr.:
Promotions:
Assignments:
Decorations & Awards:
(Fm: http://www.geocities.com/~orion47/SS-PO ... f_A-D.html )
Has he had little frontline experience, could it have been one of these?
BARTH, Dr. jur. Horst
(1890 - 1961)
SS-Obersturbannfuhrer/Leutnant d.R. a.D
Served at RSHA.
BARTH, Prof. Dr. Hermann
(-)
SS-Obersturmbannführer:
Born:
Died:
NSDAP-Nr.:
SS-Nr.:
Promotions:
SS-Obersturmbannführer:
SS-Sturmbannführer:
SS-Hauptsturmführer:
SS-Obersturmführer:
SS-Untersturmführer:
Career:
Decorations & Awards:
BARTH, Dr. Rudolf
(-)
SS-Obersturmbannführer:
Born:
Died:
NSDAP-Nr.: /SS-Nr.:
Promotions:
Assignments:
Decorations & Awards:
(Fm: http://www.geocities.com/~orion47/SS-PO ... f_A-D.html )
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Re: SS-Pz.Gren.Rgt 23 "NORGE"
Hi Bjørn!
Thanks for mentioned these officers, but I really do not know. I have nothing to work on concerning this man.......
Now there are very few survivors left of the Btl. who can give any valuble information on him also.
Thanks for mentioned these officers, but I really do not know. I have nothing to work on concerning this man.......
Now there are very few survivors left of the Btl. who can give any valuble information on him also.
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Re: SS-Pz.Gren.Rgt 23 "NORGE"
Hi
I search Informations of this mens:
Njaal Björkelid
Willy Gussen
Herbert Henze
Hans Last
Ernst Scheid
Axel Steen
Ewald Stock
Josef Westemeyer
Willi Wettstein
Jan
I search Informations of this mens:
Njaal Björkelid
Willy Gussen
Herbert Henze
Hans Last
Ernst Scheid
Axel Steen
Ewald Stock
Josef Westemeyer
Willi Wettstein
Jan
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Re: SS-Pz.Gren.Rgt 23 "NORGE"
Hi!Jan wrote:Hi
I search Informations of this mens:
Njaal Björkelid
Willy Gussen
Herbert Henze
Hans Last
Ernst Scheid
Axel Steen
Ewald Stock
Josef Westemeyer
Willi Wettstein
Jan
BJÖRKELID died 21.3.45 at Stettin in 5./23
Willi WETTSTEIN probably from 14./23
Axel STEEN was never by the Rgt. Norge, KIA 25.6.44 at Kaprolat as Kp.fhr 3./SS-Jäg.Schi.Btl NORGE div NORD.
Regards
Regiment Norge
Re: SS-Pz.Gren.Rgt 23 "NORGE"
Thanks
Can you help me. In which KP were following men?
SS Ustuf. Knut Agnar Aanonsen
SS Ustuf. Hâkon Sunberg
Jan
Can you help me. In which KP were following men?
SS Ustuf. Knut Agnar Aanonsen
SS Ustuf. Hâkon Sunberg
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Hi!Jan wrote:Thanks
Can you help me. In which KP were following men?
SS Ustuf. Knut Agnar Aanonsen
SS Ustuf. Hâkon Sunberg
Jan
AANONSEN was KIA 5.2.44 leading an Wehrmacht company (2. Copmany but Rgt. is not known, I have the name of the Oberleutnant he succeded as Kp.fhr) south of Narva city, he was before a Zug.Fhr within the 11./23.
SUNDBERG is not known wether or not he was within the III.(germ.)SS-Pz.Korps - he died 9.8.44 in an hospital in Latvija.
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Re: SS-Pz.Gren.Rgt 23 "NORGE"
Something springs to my mind but I am not at home and cannot check this hypothesis : and if Barth was just a phonetic transcription of Garthe ?
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Re: SS-Pz.Gren.Rgt 23 "NORGE"
Of course, I think of Herbert Garthe though he was an SS-Obersturmbannführer at that time. But maybe Rolf Michaelis was wrong concerning the exact rank. This was the end of the war and officers were taken out of the SS-Führerreserve to assume commands which did not always correspond to their effective ranks.