Is the 84 IR from 8 ID - IV armee crossed the Meuse first?

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Re: Is the 84 IR from 8 ID - IV armee crossed the Meuse first?

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Hello Noeneors :D; yes, sure it's a great stuff but would be interesting to put one hand on the Abt Ia (Ops) reports. Cheers. Raúl M 8).
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Re: Is the 84 IR from 8 ID - IV armee crossed the Meuse first?

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Hello Tigre
You're well!
Unfortunately, I think the Abt Ia is not available in Brussel.
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Re: Is the 84 IR from 8 ID - IV armee crossed the Meuse first?

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Hello to all :D; something more.............

Story of an Army Corps from the German border to the French-Belgian border. May 1940.

The Meuse crossing by Yvoir and Profondeville.

That very night the I. / IR 7 crossed the Meuse under fire from machine guns and conquered the rugged cliffs which dominating the banks of the watercourse at Profondeville at the cost of 16 KIA and 36 WIA, the rest of the regiment remained in the Chateau de la Ronchine.

On May 15, 1940 the IR 84 (8 ID) proceeded the attack to Walcourt, a small town south of Charleroi and at sunset were conquered the heights around Walcourt without suffering significant casualties. The advance continued toward Beaumont and Maubeuge. The Schw. Art Abt. 604 had taken fire positions in and around Assese and Maillen in support of the 28 ID.

Sources: http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... IR84-R.htm
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Re: Is the 84 IR from 8 ID - IV armee crossed the Meuse first?

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Hello Tigre,
Just a little message about the View cart of "Bois de Nismont"!!!(maybe a little confusion??)
According to the text of IR7 they "clearing the "Bois de Nismes" before crossing the Meuse. This is a wood area just upon the river Meuse in the vicinity ofLustin.
So. Many thanks for your appreciate business.
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Re: Is the 84 IR from 8 ID - IV armee crossed the Meuse first?

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Hello to all :D; something more.............

Story of an Army Corps from the German border to the French-Belgian border. May 1940.

The Meuse crossing by Yvoir and Profondeville.

On the night from 15 to 16 May, 1940 the IR 7 crossed the Meuse River and moved to the front of the 28 ID until 10:00 hours when the most advanced parts, the cyclist squadron and the 14. / IR 7 received fire from Mettet and the progress could not continue any further. With the fire support of the I. / AR 28 and the I. / AR 64, the III. Battalion attacked frontally, while the II. Battalion attacked from the flank and so the village was taken at 13:00 hours at the cost of 1 dead and 11 wounded. The regiment pursued the enemy and at dusk reached the line Chastres-Laneffe. On this day the Schw. Art Abt. 604 crossed the river Meuse by Yvoir and proceeded to Maubeuge.

Sources: http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... IR84-R.htm
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Re: Is the 84 IR from 8 ID - IV armee crossed the Meuse first?

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Hello to all :D; something more.............

Story of an Army Corps from the German border to the French-Belgian border. May 1940.

The Meuse crossing by Yvoir and Profondeville.

On May 17, 1940 the IR 84 was in front of the fortifications of the Maginot Line on the French-Belgian border. Again it was heard the order sappers to the front (Pioniere nach vorn) and with demolition charges they supported the infantry in the attack against the fortified line. On the afternoon on May 17, 1940 the German troops approached up to the first fortifications. But a daylight attack would be suicide so it was planned a night attack.

While the IR 7 pursued almost without resistance and had reached the area Thirimont-Beaumont on the French border. During the night of 17 to 18 May 1940 it was able to break through the border fortifications in the area of Barelles. That very night the II. / IR 7 was directed towards Maubeuge.

Sources: http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... IR84-R.htm
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Re: Is the 84 IR from 8 ID - IV armee crossed the Meuse first?

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Hello to all :D; the end of it.............

Story of an Army Corps from the German border to the French-Belgian border. May 1940.

The Meuse crossing by Yvoir and Profondeville.

Next day, May 18, 1940 continued the advance and the unit captured the town of Hautmont, then got across the Sambre and continue towards Maubeuge. The II. / IR 7 then assailed the town and fortifications of Maubeuge and managed to open the way for the rest of the regiment suffered 5 dead and 16 wounded. The Schw. Art. Abt. 604 fought with French infantry on the south bridge over the Sambre at Louvois and then occupied firing positions south of the town to support the 28 ID in its assault against the fortifications of Maubeuge (but that was another story).

Sources: http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... IR84-R.htm
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http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... /IR7-R.htm
http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gli ... A604-R.htm
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Re: Is the 84 IR from 8 ID - IV armee crossed the Meuse first?

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Hello to all :D; here goes a brief account of a fierce battle between French tanks and German artillery in which the French apparently bore the brunt ....................

The 3. / 37 BCC and the combat around Denée.

On May 15, 1940, the 3rd Company was ordered to reach Somtet, a town south of Mettet. In Ermeton, the tanks were blocked by a stream and headed north in order to take up the main road to Denée.

Around Denée the French tanks attacked some troops of the 8. ID. The German artillery responded quickly with dozens of weapons, including guns of 88 and 105 mm. The tank B1 bis Guépratte was hit and caught fire, as a result the driver perished; the rest of the crew, all wounded, were captured. The tank Commander was Lieutenant Albert Chambon.

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Sources: http://www.chars-francais.net/new/index ... &Itemid=66
http://reibert.info/forum/showthread.php?t=27784
http://users.skynet.be/ermeton1914/2nee2.html

More details about it?. TIA. Cheers. Raúl M 8).
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Hello to all :D; here goes something more....................

The 3. / 37 BCC and the combat around Denée.

Another tank B1 bis destroyed here was the Yser and four of the five crew members were killed in combat: Sous-lieutenant Georges Gossin, Sergent Jacques Stalin, Chasseurs Maurice Josserand and René Gicquel.

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Sources: http://www.chars-francais.net/new/index ... &Itemid=66
http://reibert.info/forum/showthread.php?t=27784
http://users.skynet.be/ermeton1914/2nee2.html

If anyone can bring something more, it would be fully appreciated. Thanks. Cheers. Raúl M 8).
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