SUGGESTED ORGANIZATION OF A RAIDING PARTY

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SUGGESTED ORGANIZATION OF A RAIDING PARTY

Post by Franz Repper » Sun Nov 23, 2008 7:06 am

Ok I took this info and I hope translated it correctly Some may find it intresting Like Tom H on here my main intrest is SS Gebrigs Div Nord

This info was taken from Vorläufige Richtlininen Fur Ausbildung und kampf von skitruppen 1943
SUGGESTED ORGANIZATION OF A RAIDING PARTY

Typical Organization

A typical organization for a raiding party consists of one platoon ,reinforced by one heavy mortar squad and one pioniere unit.It is assumed for this illustration that the raiding party will be gone for two days

Total Personnel, Weapons, and Hand sleds

1. Officers = 1
2. Noncommissioned officers (NCOs) = 7
3. Other enlisted men= 58
4. Rifles = 23
5. Semiautomatic rifles (With telescopic sights)= 14
6. Pistols = 13
7. Submachine guns = 16
8. Light machine guns= 3
9. Heavy motar = 1
10. tripod for Heavy machine gun= 1
11. Hand sleds = 13
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Platoon Headquarters

1 Officer (leader of the raiding party) = 1 submachine gun pair of binoculars 1 lensatic compass
1 NCO (assistant platoon leader )= 1 submachine gun pair of binoculars 1 lensatic compass
4Messengers= 1 submachine gun 1semiautomatic rifle With telescopic sight,2 rifles1 very type pistol with signal ammunition 2 light hatahets

1 Medical NCO = 1 pistol pair of binoculars 1 lensatic compass
2 First aid men= 2 pistols
2 stretcher bearers= 2 rifles

Other equipment= 1 hand sled with 1 heavy machine gun tripod for mounting light
machine gun as heavy machine gun, 1,200 rounds of ammunition
in belts,1 spade

1 hand sled with 2 pairs of spare skis poles,repair kit aluminum ski tips,spare bindings,collapsible lanterns 1spade and rations

1 hand sled with medical equipment and reserve ammunition
1 hand sled for transport of wounded
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First squad
1 NCO (squad leader) = 1 submachine gun pair of binoculars
1 lensatic compass
3 machine gunners = 2 pistols 1 rifle pair of binoculars 1
light hatchet
8 riflemen = 1 submachine gun 3 semiautomatic rifles With telescopic sights
4 rifles,3 light hatchets 1 wire cutter

Second and third squads
The 2nd and 3rd squads are made of the same make up as the 1st squad

Heavy Mortar squad
Personnel Equipment and weapons

1NCO=(squad leader) 1 submachine gun pair of binoculars 1
lensatic compass
1 Range setter= 1 pistol
11 men 3 pistols 4 semiautomatic rifles With telescopic sights 4 rifles
4 light hatchets 1 wire cutter

Other equipment 1 hand sled with heavy mortar and 2 spades
4 hand sleds with 18 rounds of ammunition in each
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PIONIERE
Personnel Equipment and weapons
1 NCO (squad leader) 1 submachine gun pair of binoculars 1 lensatic compass
5 men 5 submachine guns 2 light hatchets 1 wire cutter

Other equipment 1 hand sled with hand grenades ,explosives and pioniere
equipments as required by the mission

Ammunition Total
Total required

Rifle and semiautomatic rifle 4,4000 rounds
Pistol 416 rounds
Submachine gun 6,144 rounds
light machine gun 4,800 rounds
Heavy mortar 72 rounds
Hand grenades 162
Explosives As required

Break down and Individual supply

Rifle and semiautomatic rifle 120 (100 on person 20 on sled)
Pistol 32 on person
Submachine gun 384 rounds 256 on person in 8 magazines 128 on sled
Light machine gun 1,600 rounds 1,200 with each light machine gun 400 with platoon
HQ
Heavy mortar 72 rounds on sleds
Hand grenades 2 each 30 on sleds
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Other Equipment
Carried on person

Boots Semiwaterproof and large enough so 2 or 3 pairs of socks may be warn
Sock 2 or 3 pairs
winter combat suit quilted trousers fur lined jacket and fur lined cap
White camouflage suit
Gloves(1 pair)
Fur-lined leather mittens worn over gloves
Wristlets and Knee protectors
Woolen underclothing
Ski and ski poles
Sheath knife 1
First aid packets qty 2
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Carried in Rucksack
Shelter half
woolen socks 2 pairs
Personal cooking and mess equipment
Newspaper
Candles and matches
Rations 1½ days (additional rations for one-half day on sled)
Portable gasoline cook stove(1 for each squad)
Medical Equipment
1. Dressings -Muslin bandages ,Medicated compressed gauze pads,elastic bandages,wire ladder splints
2. Medicines- stretcher bearers kits antifrostbite ointments ,dextroenergen,pure Dextrose,Pervitin
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Re: SUGGESTED ORGANIZATION OF A RAIDING PARTY

Post by John W. Howard » Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:04 pm

Hello Franz:
Wow!! Nice photos and information. Best wishes.
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Re: SUGGESTED ORGANIZATION OF A RAIDING PARTY

Post by sniper1shot » Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:06 am

What you have described is a Fighting Patrol. From what is pictured and shown these troops are going out to look for trouble and hoping they find it. Fighting Patrols have a set task, like destruction of a bridge or capture of a HQ type of deal.
A Raiding party could be a different name or something with a smaller task.

Great pics and break down of the patrol too.
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Re: SUGGESTED ORGANIZATION OF A RAIDING PARTY

Post by Franz Repper » Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:53 am

sniper1shot wrote:What you have described is a Fighting Patrol. From what is pictured and shown these troops are going out to look for trouble and hoping they find it. Fighting Patrols have a set task, like destruction of a bridge or capture of a HQ type of deal.
A Raiding party could be a different name or something with a smaller task.

Great pics and break down of the patrol too.
Soory for the late reply work getting in the way of things at the moment I will go back throw the book to make shure I translated it right But I think its the one and the same thing
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Re: SUGGESTED ORGANIZATION OF A RAIDING PARTY

Post by Tanker Mike » Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:27 pm

sniper1shot wrote:What you have described is a Fighting Patrol. From what is pictured and shown these troops are going out to look for trouble and hoping they find it. Fighting Patrols have a set task, like destruction of a bridge or capture of a HQ type of deal.
A Raiding party could be a different name or something with a smaller task.
Both of my sources use the description for Section V as 'Patrols, Assault Troops and Raiding Parties.' This in the manual; German Ski Training and Tactics, 1943.

Here are some weblinks to a bookstore that sells English translations of a couple German WWII mountain warfare manuals.

http://landmarkmilitarybooks.com/GERMAN ... -1620.html

http://landmarkmilitarybooks.com/GERMAN ... -1621.html

I have both of them and they make for interesting reading.


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Re: SUGGESTED ORGANIZATION OF A RAIDING PARTY

Post by Franz Repper » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:44 am

They do this in English ? Feck that saves me some sweat from translting this
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Re: SUGGESTED ORGANIZATION OF A RAIDING PARTY

Post by Tanker Mike » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:56 am

Franz Repper wrote:They do this in English ? Feck that saves me some sweat from translting this
Yep, English!


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