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Can you pls. define "we"?Gerst wrote:In July 1942, we could have deployed the 11th Army into southern Russia and kicked some real Bolshevik "Arsch!" Too bad we had an Austrian corporal in charge of our army!
Hi Sid, let's be clear that historically Crimia never belonged to Ukraine and ethnic Ukrainian population never exceeded 1-2% of Crimea population. Russia throughout its history was engaged in many wars with Tartars (anchestors of Mongols who invaded some Russian territories in 13,14 and 15th centuries)and Turkey (sometimes supported by England) in 18th and 19th centuary to win-back Crimea and set up Sevastopol as the main base of the Black Sea fleet. Needless to say that Ukraine at that times part of Russian Empire had nothing to do with Russian Army and Russian Fleet victories in Crimean Wars. It was only because of ex-Soviet leader Nikita Khruchev (ethnic Ukrainian) who decided to transfer Crimea from Russian Republic of USSR to Ukrainian Republic of USSR that Crimea today turned out to be part of Ukraine. Another person who was involved in this affair is Boris Eltsin who did not demand Crimea back to Russia in 1991 when USSR was dissolved and independent Ukraine was established.sid guttridge wrote:This has contributed to the current anomally whereby although the Crimea is part of the Ukraine, most of its population is Russian.
Gerst, Now I see what you meant by "we" and your applogies for "we kicked some real Bolshevik "Arsch!"" are taken. I don't think it is productive to talk in these terms since Russians also kicked some real Nazi Arsch! in 1943-1945 and effectively put an end to Adolf Hitler 'Third Reich". No hard feelings since personally I have a high respect for a German soldier who was probably the most dangerous opponent of the Russian soldier in Russian history. That's why the defeat of such a strong enemy in WW2 is especially honorable. I wish you all the best!Gerst wrote:Whenever I discuss WW II, I think of myself as a German, since I was born there in 1944 and my father and his brothers all served. My mother had only sisters. They served as teachers and one worked for Admiral Doenitz.
From 1951 to 1956 "we" means Canadians. After that, "we" became Americans, but I also revert to "we" when discussing Europe because I still think of myself as a European.
Sorry about the "butt kick" remark my friend. You guys did a bit of that yourselves! No disrespect intended.
All the best from Texas,
This was a trick made up by Stalin to increase Soviet influence in the UN. Don't be mislead by this fact since in Soviet times Ukraine (as well as other Republics of USSR) didn't get any political independance and all decisions were taken in Moscow.sid guttridge wrote:It is perhaps also worth mentioning that because the Ukraine already had a seat in the UN
I'm happy that You know that, but most "West" people do not know much about history and presence of Eastern Europe. For many of them USSR = Russia, and Russian = communistsid guttridge wrote:Hi Igorn,
We in the West know that very well.
This issue is an illustation that Russia didn't simply gain from its dominance of the USSR. It could also be a loser.