Panzerbeobachswagen Panther

German weapons, vehicles and equipment 1919-1945.

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Panzerbeobachswagen Panther

Post by Apollyon » Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:24 am

There were supossed to be 41 made did any ever see combat?

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Re: Panzerbeobachswagen Panther

Post by sniper1shot » Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:41 am

Description or picture of it??
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Re: Panzerbeobachswagen Panther

Post by Apollyon » Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:26 pm

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Re: Panzerbeobachswagen Panther

Post by sniper1shot » Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:12 pm

I can't say I have read on it myself.
Thanks for the photo.
What size gun on it?
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Re: Panzerbeobachswagen Panther

Post by Waleed Y. Majeed » Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:34 pm

What size gun on it
MG34!

Gun is replaced with rangefinders etc. Barrel is camouflage.
Read post (very bottom) in second link.


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Re: Panzerbeobachswagen Panther

Post by Apollyon » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:01 am

@Waleed my German isn't so good, does the second link say if it saw combat ?

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Re: Panzerbeobachswagen Panther

Post by Tanker Mike » Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:19 pm

Apollyon wrote:There were supossed to be 41 made did any ever see combat?
No production run was ever done. Just one prototype. Production of combat tanks were deemed more important than a artillery observation vehicle.

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Re: Panzerbeobachswagen Panther

Post by Apollyon » Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:40 pm

From what I read they were not "prodution" tanks they were refits to damaged vehicles.

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Re: Panzerbeobachswagen Panther

Post by Tanker Mike » Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:54 pm

Apollyon wrote:From what I read they were not "prodution" tanks they were refits to damaged vehicles.
I seem to recall reading that somewhere too. However, it never happened.

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Re: Panzerbeobachswagen Panther

Post by laurence strong » Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:57 pm

From what I can find, only a single trials vehicle was built/converted.

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Re: Panzerbeobachswagen Panther

Post by nigelfe » Sat Jul 12, 2008 3:05 am

I could comment that before you need OP tanks you need sufficient artillery to make them worth while. Looking at the picture there aren't any obvious signs of arty specific instruments and there aren't the number of antennas one might expect (based on UK's quite extensive use of OP tanks including many with dummy guns).

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Re: Panzerbeobachswagen Panther

Post by Apollyon » Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:09 am

Have you looked at a Panzerbeobachswagen III very successful vehicle and had a similar "look"

nigelfe wrote:I could comment that before you need OP tanks you need sufficient artillery to make them worth while. Looking at the picture there aren't any obvious signs of arty specific instruments and there aren't the number of antennas one might expect (based on UK's quite extensive use of OP tanks including many with dummy guns).

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Re: Panzerbeobachswagen Panther

Post by laurence strong » Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:06 pm

I have been wondering what he means by "Atrillery specific equiptment". Back then all you had was a map, binoculars, a compass and a radio or 2. We still shoot like that for the most part, though laser range finders are now used instead of estimating distance to target.

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Re: Panzerbeobachswagen Panther

Post by nigelfe » Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:21 am

German arty seems to have had some affinity for optical rangefinders and tripod mounted binos.

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