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Anyone know the standard for issuing binoculars in the German WW2 Army?
Was it issued depending on rank, function or both?

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Post by charlie don't surf »

I'd say function.

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dienstglas 6x30 issued to officers from platoon size-up,
civilian pre-war 6x30, 8x30 also aproved, issued from platoon level comander -up,

bigger sizes 9x56 9x50 8x40 issued to vehicle drivers and panzer/grenadier troops.

usually you can distingish the earlier types (not 3 letter coded) by the lack of ranging grid, altought a lot were removed after the war for civilian use .....

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Thanks for your replies.

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Axvier's reply covers the question pretty well , its always a point of interest with me to make a mantal note of size and type of binocular seen around the neck of soldiers of all ranks seen in film footage or in photos.
Make and size often hard to get right as leitz and Zeiss dienstglas models look pretty much alike.
The rarer models do ocasionally turn up ....Manteuffel (hope I spelt that right !) with what looked like a leitz naval set around his neck to Himmler with a 7 x 56 civilian set (centre focusing) to a 6 x 30 set when marching in "Triumph of the Will".
Occasioanlly modern movies are worth a look ...e.g. the Waffen S.S> officer who led the assult on Arnhem Bridge with a CF41 set by BArr and Stroud around his neck ! :wink:
Its always a pity to see the reticule /granicule removed.
If anyone has sets for sale I am always interested !
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Hello to all :D; a little complement............................

Scissors telescope.

The term comes from the design of these instruments, which can be folded out like a pair of scissors. Its development dates back to the late 19th Century (ca. 1894) when were presented with the first prism binoculars.

A scissors telescope is a special type of binocular telescope, in which the two lenses are far away from each other by a scissors type or V-shaped structure and a few decimetres above the head of the observer. The image effect allowing for better distance discrimination. With nearly parallel tubes serves as periscopes. To avoid glasses shake, it is usually placed on a tripod.

Scissors telescopes were often used in order to not go out of cover and for optical distance measurement on the angle of parallax.

Sources: http://home.arcor.de/thuernagel/sf14.htm
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scherenfernrohr
http://www.ebay.de/itm/TOP-Russland-Off ... SwRgJXjLTn

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A German soldier using a scissor telescope to observe enemy positions - Eastern Front 1942 ................................... ..........
A German soldier using a scissor telescope to observe enemy positions - Eastern Front 1942 ................................... ..........
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Binocular Flakfernrohr 10x80.

In 1936, the company Emil Busch AG of Rathenow won a tender for the production of a 10-magnification binoculars for aerial observation for the German army. Two other companies also competed in the tender: Leitz and Möller, but the Busch model was chosen because of its lower weight (6.5 kg vs. 9.25 kg of Möller and 8.5 of Leitz) and a greater field of vision (131m to 1000m vs 105m / 113m for Möller and Leitz). Production started shortly after and continued throughout the war. Only 5 companies were producing the Flakfernrohr 10x80 namely: beh (E. Leitz Wetzlar), DKL (Schneider, Bad Kreuznach), cro (R. Fuess, Berlin Steglitz), bpd (CP Goerz, Wiedeń), EUG (Optische Präzisions-Werke , Warsaw) and, of course, cxn (E. Busch, Rathenow). The 10x80 Flakfernrohr used mainly by antiaircraft artillery, was also useful on the battlefield, and the version with 20 degree eyepieces was produced for the Kriegsmarine. The simple sight of the Flakfernrohr 10x80 was used as an optical sight (Zielfernrohr) for the Flak 8.8 cm.

Sources: https://panzerlehr.forumoteka.pl/viewto ... 0cb315aa1c
https://www.delcampe.net/de/sammlerobje ... 08084.html

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General Erich von Manstein (right) talking with General Wolfram Freiherr von Richthofen (Commander of the VIII Fliegerkorps); in the photo a binocular Flakfernrohr 10x80 located on tripod ...........................
General Erich von Manstein (right) talking with General Wolfram Freiherr von Richthofen (Commander of the VIII Fliegerkorps); in the photo a binocular Flakfernrohr 10x80 located on tripod ...........................
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Doppelfenrrohr M.A.Za. 10x80.

This binocular was used by antiaircraft and coast defense batteries. This material was produced in small quantities and only by two manufacturers, Carl Zeiss and Optisches Prazisions Werke Warsaw. It is born for achieving the ability to detect and identify the target at great distances with speed and accuracy.

The binoculars had a field of view of 122 meters to 1,000 meters and the eyepiece was tilted 80 ° which gave the operator a comfortable viewing position, resulting in a long operating time.

Sources: http://www.historicacollectibles.com/it ... circa-1941
http://www.germaniainternational.com/im ... forc12.jpg

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This binocular provided a large field of view, coupled with a very comfortable observation position..........................
This binocular provided a large field of view, coupled with a very comfortable observation position..........................
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Kampf bei Orel – die Zugführer (Fighting in Orel - the platoon leader).

Sources: https://www.aboutww2militaria.com/es/el ... lenas.html

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Here we see him wearing a belt with harness, shovel, map bag, bayonet, binoculars (6x30 Dienstglas?), submachine gun and of course the steel helmet (Stahlhelm). He also wears the Infanteriesturmabzeichen (Infantry Assault Badge) and the EKI (Iron Cross 1st Class)...........
Here we see him wearing a belt with harness, shovel, map bag, bayonet, binoculars (6x30 Dienstglas?), submachine gun and of course the steel helmet (Stahlhelm). He also wears the Infanteriesturmabzeichen (Infantry Assault Badge) and the EKI (Iron Cross 1st Class)...........
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