SS. Ausbildungs & Ersats Btls. Holland sept 44?

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SS. Ausbildungs & Ersats Btls. Holland sept 44?

Post by Ruud Wilmsen » Mon Nov 10, 2003 12:37 pm

In sept 44 SS Ausb. & Ers. Btls were stationed in Holland and played a major part in defeating 1 UK Para Division in Arnhem.

These were 4 Pz Gren Ausb. & Ers. Btl in Ede
16 Pz Gren Ausb. & Ers. Abt in Arnhem
V/SS-Art.AuE.Rgt. (Schwappacher
SS-Pz.Gr.Ausb. & Ers. Btl. 12 Arnhem (june 44) 2500 men?

Does someone know more about these units.
LXXXIII A.O.K. mentions some of these units in coastal defense in aug 44
SS Btl Eberwein , Delfs, Mattush, Schulz, Oelkers and Krafft.

I think these Btls were Kampfgruppen put together from different companies of these Ausb. und Ersatz Btls
Does someone know more about the composition of these Kampfgruppen.

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Alarm units

Post by jarek » Sat Nov 15, 2003 9:00 am

Hi Ruud,

Alarm Units formed 22.06.1944

SS-Alarm Bataillon Mattusch
Composed form:
Staff and 1. - 6. Coy/ SS-Panzergrenadier Ausb. und Ersatz Btl. 4
1./SS-IG Ausbildungs Btl. 2
CO - SS-Stubaf. Walter Mattusch

SS-Alarm Bataillon Krafft
Composed form:
Staff and 2., 4., 6. Coy/ SS-Panzergrenadier Ausb. und Ersatz Btl. 12
3./SS-IG Ausbildungs Btl. 2
part of 4./Festungs Stammtruppe LXXXVIII (Heer)
Alarm Unit Marine Festungs Pioniergruppe W
CO - SS-Stubaf. Sepp Krafft

SS-Alarm Bataillon Eberwein
Composed form:
Staff of SS-IG Ausbildungs Btl. 2
4., 7., 8. Coy/ SS-Unterführerschule
1., 2. SS-Panzerjäger Kp. Nordwest
SS-Postschutz
part of 4./Festungs Stammtruppe LXXXVIII (Heer)
CO - SS-Stubaf. Eugen Eberwein

SS-Alarm Bataillon Lippert
Composed form:
Staff and 1., 2., 3. Coy/ SS-Unterführerschule
2. Coy /SS-IG Ausbildungs Btl. 2
Alarm unit Delft
CO - SS-Staf. Michael Lippert

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Jarek
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SS Ausb. & Ers. Btls sept 44 holland

Post by Ruud Wilmsen » Mon Nov 17, 2003 12:09 pm

Thank you Jarek

According to Robert Kershaw (it never snows). Sepp Krafft was co of SS Ausb. & Ers. Btl 16. Did the unit change its name in the period between june and sept 44

Wat is your source on this excellent informatiion

Do you know where SS-IG Ausbildungs Btl. 2 was stationed

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SS-IG Ausb. Bt. 2

Post by jarek » Sat Nov 22, 2003 9:56 am

Hi Ruud,
my sotce is: Jan Vincx & Victor Schotanius, "Landstorm Nederland", and NARA microphilmes.

SS-IG Btl. 2 was locared (17.04.1944):
staff - Waassenaar
1. Kp - Bennebroek
2. Kp. - Delftgauw
3. Kp - Rijksdorp
Nach Kdo - Apeldoorn

In Wassenaar was lcated also:
SS-Unterführerschule (staff and 1., 2., 4. Kp.)
SS-Pz. Gren. AuE Btl. 12 (staff and 2., 3., 4., 6. Kp.)
SS-San. Kp. Bfh. d. W-SS Ndl. (staff and 2., 3. Zug)

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Jarek
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Re: SS. Ausbildungs & Ersats Btls. Holland sept 44?

Post by MadDog » Fri Oct 24, 2008 3:44 pm

I am arriving rather late to this thread, but I need to mention that there is some information in the T314, R1626, 63289/5 anlagen data, starting on frame 625, and referenced at points through the entire set.

What I havnt found, was an indication of equipment.

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Re: SS. Ausbildungs & Ersats Btls. Holland sept 44?

Post by MadDog » Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:10 am

On frame 590, there is some info on personnel strengths on August 8, 1944.
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Re: SS. Ausbildungs & Ersats Btls. Holland sept 44?

Post by Ruud Wilmsen » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:05 pm

Thanks MadDog

however this is not a personell strenght report
Its an order to forward 2000 personell ersatz for the 1 SS Pz Korps fighting in Normandy
I can't make up the date however.

T314, R1626, 63289/5 anlagen data"
Are these records part of a KTB ?

I'm still interested in records on SS Ausb &Ers Units in Holland 1944
They played a mayor role in the Market Garden operation which still isn't very clear because organic units were put together as Kampfgruppen.

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Re: SS. Ausbildungs & Ersats Btls. Holland sept 44?

Post by MadDog » Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:50 pm

It would probably help if I could read German : )

This is from the anlagen to the KTB. I am in the process of putting it all into PDF format. PM me if you want it.

thanks,

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