Servus,
On what day in Septemnber, 1941 did Eicke reassume command of the Totenkopf Division. I have seen various dates from the 18th to the 22d.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Regards,
Helmut
Theodor Eicke
actually its under feldgrau's main site:
http://www.feldgrau.com/3ss.html
Scrolls down to Commanders on the Left:
Obergruppenführer Theodor Eicke, 11.01.39 - 7.7.41
Obergruppenführer Matthias Kleinheisterkamp, 7.07.41 - 7.18.41
Obergruppenführer Georg Keppler, 7.18.41 - 9.19.41
Obergruppenführer Theodor Eicke, 9.19.41 - 2.26.43
Obergruppenführer Herman Priess, 2.26.43 - 4.27.43
Gruppenführer Heinz Lammerding, 4.27.43 - 5.15.43
Gruppenführer Max Simon, 5.15.43 - 10.22.43
Obergruppenführer Herman Priess, 10.22.43 - 6.21.44
Brigadeführer Hellmuth Becker, 6.21.44 - 5.8.45[/b]
http://www.feldgrau.com/3ss.html
Scrolls down to Commanders on the Left:
Obergruppenführer Theodor Eicke, 11.01.39 - 7.7.41
Obergruppenführer Matthias Kleinheisterkamp, 7.07.41 - 7.18.41
Obergruppenführer Georg Keppler, 7.18.41 - 9.19.41
Obergruppenführer Theodor Eicke, 9.19.41 - 2.26.43
Obergruppenführer Herman Priess, 2.26.43 - 4.27.43
Gruppenführer Heinz Lammerding, 4.27.43 - 5.15.43
Gruppenführer Max Simon, 5.15.43 - 10.22.43
Obergruppenführer Herman Priess, 10.22.43 - 6.21.44
Brigadeführer Hellmuth Becker, 6.21.44 - 5.8.45[/b]
I suppose not, Lex. Yet I've read that when he was killed in February 1943, a goodly number of Totenkopf soldiers volunteered to risk their necks to recover his body from a shot-down Fiesler Storch aircraft either behind Russian lines or quite close to them. For all his personal toughness and possible streak of sadism, he sure must've been a good leader of men for them to be willing to recover his body.
Yours,
Paul
Yours,
Paul
Servus,
I did sme digging in the TK Div unit history ( Soldaten, Kaempfer, Kameraden) and in Vol IIa it showswhere he reassumed command on the 19th. The Book SOLDIERS OF DESTRUCTION however shows the 21st. I think I would tend to believe the officieal unit history however.
I had also heard from veterans of the Division that Eicke was much loved by his men. He was referred to as Papa Eicke by them which would indicate some affection by them.
Regards and thanks for all your help.
Helmut
I did sme digging in the TK Div unit history ( Soldaten, Kaempfer, Kameraden) and in Vol IIa it showswhere he reassumed command on the 19th. The Book SOLDIERS OF DESTRUCTION however shows the 21st. I think I would tend to believe the officieal unit history however.
I had also heard from veterans of the Division that Eicke was much loved by his men. He was referred to as Papa Eicke by them which would indicate some affection by them.
Regards and thanks for all your help.
Helmut
Glad to help out . When I started out researching the 3rd, it became apparent the Eicke commanded respect on a level that was unsurpassed. Since a large number of men went into the 3rd Div directly from the totenkopfverbande, he was looked at as more than just a commander...since the relationship to the men was very close and personal (early in totenkopfs history) unlike other Divisions.
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Servus,
I find it fascinating that Eicke, though he never had any formal military training , could be such an effective and respected military commander. People who write him off as a butcher boy do him and history an injustice. Soldiers can tolerate a martinet but they cannot tolerate an incompetent. The respect his soldiers had, and stil have for the man speaks volumes. It would have been interesting to see how far up the ladder he would have gone had he lived.
Regards,
Helmut
I find it fascinating that Eicke, though he never had any formal military training , could be such an effective and respected military commander. People who write him off as a butcher boy do him and history an injustice. Soldiers can tolerate a martinet but they cannot tolerate an incompetent. The respect his soldiers had, and stil have for the man speaks volumes. It would have been interesting to see how far up the ladder he would have gone had he lived.
Regards,
Helmut