Uncle Helmuth

German SS and Waffen-SS 1923-1945.
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Anton
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Uncle Helmuth

Post by Anton » Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:55 am

I do not know much about him. But he was very close to the family before and during the war.

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This picture shows him in uniform. Any ideas what he was? Obviusly he was in the SS, that much I can see on the collar.

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This picture is taken in prison camp after the war. I say he look very stilish to be a prisoner.

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This is why I know it is from his prison time, It reads as far as I can see
Zum andenken von Dein Freund Helmuth in gefangenshaft in (Sucht?) lager (Mab?)
Fur Dich und Hertha
Helmuth.
The words in bracket I can´t read or understand. In english that is "For rememberance of your friend Helmuth in prison camp
For you and Hertha (my grandma)

They where from Danzig, but I do not know if the prison picture was taken during the war or after. I do not even know if it was an allied or nazi prison camp.

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Post by M.Wittmann » Fri Oct 29, 2004 9:32 am

It seems that he had the rank of Rottenführer - corporal.
Wearing Algemeines Sturmabzeichen if I'm correct.
"Klagt nicht, kämpft!"

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Post by Anton » Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:01 am

Thanks. I did a blowup on his medals. Maby they say anything?

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Post by Thomas V. » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:03 pm

"M.Wittmann" is incorrect. That is not the Allgemeines-Sturmabzeichen. It's the Infanterie-Sturmabzeichen in Silber, which means your uncle served in a non-motorized unit at some time to be awarded this Orden. To the right is the SA-Wehrsportabzeichen and to the left is a Verwundeten-Abzeichen in Schwarz. He is indeed a Rottenführer. "Zucht Lager" is what he writes, which could translate as a 'prison camp'.

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Post by Anton » Sat Oct 30, 2004 5:18 am

Thanks Thomas! Is it not an uniform he is wearing at prison camp? Stripped from insignia? I don´t know but it somehow does not look german to me.

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