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remember that every Reichswehr soldier was trained as an NCO, so if before Hitler came to power there was war, the government would definetly break the Versailles treaty, and would therefore have a good army, with 100000 NCOs and officers. Could hold of the French for quite a while, and that time could be used to build even more divisions. possible victory for Germany, if it bleeds the Allied Armies dry. just my 2 cents...sid guttridge wrote:Hi Freiritter,
In practical terms, the Reichswehr not only couldn't have repulsed a French assualt on the Rhineland, but it could probably not have held the Poles or Czechoslovaks either.
The Versailles Treaty allowed the Reichswehr seven infantry division and three cavalry divisions, with limited weaponry and no armour or air support. It was allowed no conscription and so could build up no reserves. It was also not allowed to build fortifications. Finally, it was not allowed any troops in the Rhineland, and so could not offer resistance there anyway.
The French Army was organised in 20 active infantry divisions. They could duplicate to produce another 20 infantry divisions of recently trained conscripts and triplicate to produce a further 20 divisions of older reservists within a fortnight. There were in addition various cavalry divisions and colonial divisions. If fully mobilised the French could field about 90 divisions, with armoured and air support. The biggest group of French active divisions were in north-eastern France and could enter the Rhineland as fast as the Reichswehr.
However good the Reichswehr's manpower was qualtatively, sheer weight of numbers would almost certainly have quickly ground it down.
hi, you might be right about the Reichwehr being too small, but Germany could find tons of enthusiastic patriotic youngsters who would join some kind of militia or Freikorps (Germany could reuse the Freikorps), with tens of thousands of men forimg a human barrier in the Rhineland, with the Reichswehr being used as a fire brigade in critical points. just my 2 cents....sid guttridge wrote:Hi HvM.,
See my posts above.
There was no practical possibility of the Reichswehr ever holding the French. It was far too small and under equipped. It also had very few reserves of armed men for quick expansion. It was only in 1936-37 that the renamed Wehrmacht began to become competitive with the French. See Hitler's remarks about how lucky he was that the French did not react when he remilitarised the Rhineland in March 1936.
hi, they would not attack in large offensives for the reasons said above by you, but instead would defend, and they would be very brave probably, like those 1914 students who charged into death defiantly singing "Deutschland uber alles", at the Battle of Langemarck. No doubt that this bravery would be encourage to be copied in event of this war. just my 2 cents...sid guttridge wrote:Hi HvM,
You can imagine the massacre if that had occurred.
In 1914 the Germans had enlisted an entire corps of undertrained student volunteers and threw them against the very heavily outnumbered British Army at Ypres. They were slaughtered. This was known as the "Kindermord". What you propose would almost certainly have similar consequences.
The bottom line is that there few infantry weapons for anyone beyond the Reichswehr and almost no heavy weapons to support them. What is more, the Reichwehr itself was not equipped to modern standards of the time. No medium or heavy artillery, no tanks, no aircraft..............
hi, I don't really know about Freikorps combat against Poles in 1919, but considering what these youngsters, if they survived, had been through the horros of the trenches, I wouldn't say so.Torquez wrote:Are those the same who later runed away from Poles in 1919 in Poznań ?like those 1914 students who charged into death defiantly singing "Deutschland uber alles", at the Battle of Langemarck.