Panzerverband Ostpreussen/Panzer Division Kempf

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Panzerverband Ostpreussen/Panzer Division Kempf

Post by Skarn » Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:02 pm

Hi forum !

A little question about this unit : when did this division was raised exactly ? On August 26th 1939 ?

I know that it was formed with SS units and an armored brigade, but don't remember what. Do you have some stuff about it ?

Thank you by advance !

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Post by Shadow » Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:11 pm

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Post by Skarn » Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:16 pm

"Shadow",

This time, it's you who typed too quickly ! :D
Wow, wonderful. I have its subordinated units and a lot of material about its history.

But your first link only indicates that the division was raised in July 1939. Do you have further information, or a specific day ?

Anyway, thanks a lot, great links about this unit !
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Post by Shadow » Thu Mar 04, 2004 8:36 pm

All I have is this quote from Axis Historical Factbook which shows Kempf taking command on 10 Aug. 1939. I've never been really sure on what date this unit was "officially" formed.

Panzer-Division Kempf (aka Panzerverband Ostpreußen) was formed Aug 1939 from a mix of Heer and SS-Verfügungstruppe units in East Prussia, officially to take part in the upcoming Tannenberg celebrations (to celebrate the large German victory there during the First World War).

It took part in the invasion of Poland, fighting at Mlava, Rozan, Lomza, Kliczym and Modlin. It was disbanded following that campaign and the farewell parade was held 7 Oct 1939 near Neidenburg.

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Generalmajor Werner Kempf (10 Aug 1939 - ? Oct 1939)

I'm sure somebody here should have the exact date.
(Hello Dr. N. - are you out there? :D )

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Post by Leo Niehorster » Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:51 am

Did someone rattle my cage ... ?

Tessin is silent on this one. :shock:

However, Weidinger's Das Reich, Vol. 1, page 122 reads:
Die Auftsellung des Divisions-Stabes für den geplanten Panzerverband OSTPREUSSEN erfolgte auf Befehl des OKH am 25. Juli 1939 in STuttgart beim Stellv. Generalkommando V.
[caps in original as per book]

Basically, the Vth Corps Area [or Military District] in Stuttgart received orders to activate the divisional headquarters for the Ostpreussen [East Prussia] Armored Group on 25.07.39.

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Post by Shadow » Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:11 am

Leo Niehorster wrote:Did someone rattle my cage ... ?
Leo
Good Morning Dr. N.! :wink:

You make me feel rather like Aladdin!
"Rub the Feldgrau brass bottle.....and out pops the genie!"
[or in this case: Dr. N. :D ]

Thanks for the information!

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Post by Skarn » Fri Mar 05, 2004 8:31 am

Hi !

"Shadow" is right ! I feel also like Aladdin ! :D

Thanks for the information : July 25th 1939. ;-)

Very best regards,

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Post by Frederick L Clemens » Fri Mar 05, 2004 11:36 am

There are some interesting parallels here between Kempf 39 and Panzerverband v Strachwitz/Panzerdivision v Lauchert 44.

- it was a temporary formation which was initally called a Verband but also a Division, PVS/PDL existed Aug-Oct 44.
- it was a mixed Army/SS unit and of comparable size/composition.
- it tested out a new organizational concept (PzBde 44)
- it was formed to defend Ostpreussen.

They didn't end the same way though!!

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Re: Panzerverband Ostpreussen/Panzer Division Kempf

Post by tigre » Sat May 25, 2019 6:29 pm

Hello to all :D; after a while, a complement.......................

OoB - Panzerverband Panzerverband Ostpreußen 1939.

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Source: https://subastas.catawiki.es/kavels/730 ... -1939-1971

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Re: Panzerverband Ostpreussen/Panzer Division Kempf

Post by tigre » Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:08 am

Hello to all :D; more.......................

Panzerverband Panzerverband Ostpreußen 1939.

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Deployment of I. Armeekorps as August 31, 1939...............................................

Source: Otto Weidinger - Division das Reich - 5 volumes - 1967/1982

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