More about the 11th Panzer Division, please...

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11. Panzer Division location

Post by uli M » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:03 am

I found in the book Battleground Europe "Das Reich" by Philip Vickers a map:

June 44: 11.Pz Div south of Bergerac, between Duras and (west of) Castillones.

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11th Panzer Division near bergerac

Post by coprolite » Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:07 am

A fascinating map. I'm very sitably impressed at the depth of info that people have ammassed. very useful. THANKS.

I presume SOE refers to British funded resistance activity?

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Post by lebedo » Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:43 am

Recently,french historians have published several books on the battle of Montélimar.One of them is specifically based on the 11th Panzer;it's the notes of the radioman of the Panther 102.Go on Google and simply search "Bataille de Montélimar". :up:

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Post by MadDog » Fri Aug 07, 2009 2:49 pm

Are any of the books in English ? I have always been interested in that battle.

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Post by tigre » Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:22 pm

Hello guys :D; for those who did not stumbled already with it................

http://www.knox.army.mil/center/ocoa/ar ... ganz94.pdf

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Post by lebedo » Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:09 am

:up: :wink: Great!If I remember,the books are only in French.In September will be released another book about the battle.I'll post the titles later. :[]

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Post by tigre » Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:52 am

You're welcome pal :D. Cheers. Raúl M 8).
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Post by John W. Howard » Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:29 am

Senor Tigre, you are a god!! I've been looking for a copy of that article for awhile!! Best wishes old friend.
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Post by tigre » Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:26 pm

Glad to help you John :D. All the best. Raúl M 8).
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Post by lebedo » Sat Aug 08, 2009 1:54 pm

In October 1944,the following KG was assigned to KG "Von Oppen" and saw action near Belfort till the end of November:
Stab/PAR 119,
1 Pz Kpie(panzer 4),1PzGREN Kpie(gep),1 Pio Kpie,I(sf)/PAR 119.While assembling for a counter-attack,it was dispersed by a surprise attack from the French 4°DMM;

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Post by lebedo » Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:02 pm

Sorry,it was the french 3°DIA,not the 4°DMM!!!

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Post by genstab » Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:39 am

Can anyone give me anything more about Oberst Friedrich von Halke? This is the first I heard about his being a (assumed mFb) commander. Can someone tell me the source for his commanding the division? Was he commanding the new formation in France while Gen. von Wietersheim was still with the division remnant in Russia? Or was Oberst Hake commanding the remnant while Gen. von Wietersheim was on leave?
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Post by lebedo » Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:24 am

:[] French books about the battle of Montélimar:
"Nationale 7,la route de la mort",by T.CHAZALON,self-edition;
"Le Chaudron",by P.BALLIOT,self-edition;
"Eté 44:on se bat à Montélimar",by T.CHAZALON,released in September 2009;
Some infos in "Les Alliés et la Résistance",by A.LAYTON-FUNK.

You can write to Mr CHAZALON:[email protected]

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Post by jkolak » Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:48 am

tigre wrote:
Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:22 pm
Hello guys :D; for those who did not stumbled already with it................

http://www.knox.army.mil/center/ocoa/ar ... ganz94.pdf

Cheers. Raúl M 8).
The link no longer works. Armor Magazine has moved from Ft Knox to Ft Benning.

The new link for this issue is:

http://www.benning.army.mil/armor/eARMO ... 994web.pdf

As of this writing, the link is not working, but I was able to successfully access it via Google cache.

The relevant article is 11th Panzers in the Defense 1944.

Edit: Actually, I was able to get a better copy out of the Internet Archive "Wayback Machine". Google cache gives a poorly rendered text reading, but Archive.org gives the actual PDF document.
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Re: 11.Pz.Div.

Post by jkolak » Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:54 am

David Constable wrote:
Sun Jan 11, 2004 3:22 am
December 1944 [16th]
[39 Pz.IV, 56 Panther, 19 JgPz.IV, 3500 men of whom only 800 were infantry]
???
Reinforced.
Regarding this portion of the 11Pz status prior to the Ardennes Offensive, does anyone know whether the unit was brought up to strength before being committed to combat in the Ardennes?

What do you suppose the annotations "???" and "Reinforced" indicate?

Also, I see the unit history indicates it fought in the Ardennes, but I can't find anything about what they did, or when and where.

Thanks

John

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