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Non Combat Units

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Just looking for info on non combat units in infantry divisions such as:_

a) Mapping and printing section
b)Bakery company
c) Butchers company
d) Field Post Office unit

Any TOE around 1942 would be greatly appreciated.

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Motorized Mapping Detachment
KStN 2076 – dated 1.01.1942
Det: 2 cars (Kfz. 1); 1 bus (medium, converted to office use); 1 van (2-ton).

Motorized Divisional Commissary Detachment
KStN 2086, dated 1.02.1941
Det: 1 motorcycle; 4 trucks (medium).

Motorized Butcher Company
KStN 1282 – 1.02.1941
Co Hqs: 1 motorcycle; 1 mcl w/sc; 1 car (light).
2 Plt: 3 trucks (medium); 1 trailer (generator).
Co Trains: 1 motorcycle w/sc; 1 car (light); 3 trucks (light).

Motorized Baker Company
KStN 1277 – 1.02.1941
Co Hqs: 1 motorcycle; 1 car (light).
2 Plt: 3 trucks (heavy); 1 truck (heavy – water); 1 bus (medium/33 seats); 1 trailer (dough mixer); 2 trailers (oven).
Co Trains: 1 motorcycle w/sc; 1 car (light); 3 trucks (light).

Motorized Field Post Detachment
KStN 2251 – 1.02.1941
Det: 3 cars (light); 1 truck (medium).

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Good day, Mr Niehorster

A further inquiry regarding the Mapping Detachment.

Would you happen to know how many men would be included with this? How many would be cartographers? Did this fluctuate during the war, or was the detachment relatively consistent?

Thank you in advance!
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Jason Petho wrote:Good day, Mr Niehorster

A further inquiry regarding the Mapping Detachment.

Would you happen to know how many men would be included with this? How many would be cartographers? Did this fluctuate during the war, or was the detachment relatively consistent?

Thank you in advance!
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I am interested in this as well, since this is what I did during my time in the US Marines
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Servus,
I notice that all of these units are motorized. Was this true for all infantry divisions or just the motorized divisions?

Thanks in advance for your help.

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Well, to start with, it wasn't a large unit. Just noticed, the 2076 organization shown previously (above) is for a different date.

Divisonskartenstelle (mot)
KStN 2076 dated 01.02.1941
1 Detachment Leader (Leutenant).
1 NCO - cartographer (Kartenzeichner).
2 EM - cartographers (Kartenzeichner).
2 EM - cartographic printers. (Kartendrucker) for Opalograph.
2 EM - drivers (Kraftwagenfahrer).
1 light personnel carrier/map transport vehicle.
1 light bus converted to office use.

A change to the KStN indicates that the position of Detachment Leader is cancelled, and apparently the divisional headquarters Ia Mess staff officer is to hold both positions. The unit was assigned to the division headquarters for admin, mess, & supply. Personnel were transported for the most part by vehicles of the divisional motor pool.

KStN was replaced by 2076n, dated 1.11.43, which had an additional (3rd) enlisted cartographer. As vehicles it was authorized two 4.5-ton vans and a trailer with a generator on it. Personnel still depended on division for admin, mess, supply, and transport.

There was also a corps mapping detachment with 18 men, and an army detachment with 61 men. And then there were the survey and cartographic battalions.

All divisional, corps, and army cartographic units, as well as the cartographic battalions were motorized.

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Utterly brilliant!!

Thank you, Mr Niehorster, tis truly appreciated.

As a cartographer by trade, these tidbits are particularily fascinating.

Thank you again!
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Dr Niehorster

Thank you very much for that most valuable information :)

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