"Let me entertain you....."

[phylo_roadking]

Ladies and gentlemen, let me present for your entertainment and elucidation - but NOT your edification and delight - The Return Of Paul K. Harker's "Mad Dog Memoirs", repackaged and rebranded as the wonderful ProjectGermanVeteran ...FORUM!!!

http://projectgermanveteran.aceboard.com

Have a look...feast your eyes.....

P.S. this may adversely affect those of a gentle disposition.

[phylo_roadking]

Now - notice anything???

To quote V for Vendetta - "I'll tell you what I know..."

Let's start with http://projectgermanveteran.aceboard.co ... -Luger.htm

....the thread where new members introduce themselves to the board. Now - there are presently (at time of writing this) some 569 members...of whom a RECORD 502 have posted on this thread....EXCEPT there's a little problem with this thread....

Twenty-six pages of nice people diligently filling in a sentence each. Only ONE teensy little fly in the ointment...actually FOURTEEN OF THEM....take a look at THESE fourteen members

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Brit_Majors_Wife

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Brit_LTs_Wife

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Brit_Caps_Wife
Happy_Heather

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London_Lass
Brit_Colonels_Wife

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Lois
Candice

Page 14

Crazy_Brit
Delilah

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Windjammer
Nancine

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Madelaine

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Goldie


"The Royal Army"???

NO British officer's wife would EVER describe it as the "Royal Army". It's the British Army or NOTHING. That "Royal Army" reference term is simply NOT used AT ALL here.

"SCOTTISH UN FORCES"???? What the hell are THOSE??? last time I looked - which was this afternoon in the sun, it IS only 18 miles away - it was STILL part of the UK!!! Did I miss last night's news or something??? But BEST of all....

Look at ALL the "Brit _*_Wife" entries. Same syntax. Capital letters after each underscore. People don't do that - not EVERY SINGLE TIME. And the abbreviation "Cap" is NOT used in the UK, it's "Capt" or nothing. Same with "LT" This abbreviation is NEVER used for "Lieutenant's" in the UK. Noone here says "EL-TEE", and the abbreviation is "Lt" - a small but VITAL difference. This is an AMERICAN writing this stuff...

AND more revealing that whoever created these...uses the SAME "LTs" abbreviation for AMERICAN LTs wives in the list!!!

FOURTEEN FAKE MEMBERS.

At least....

WARNING - PAUL K. HARKER HAS NOW BLOCKED PUBLIC ACCESS TO THIS THREAD!!!

Got something to hide, Paul?

[phylo_roadking]

Fourteen? Let's make it fifteen....

"Puss_N_Boots" (MORE bloody capitals!!!) and THIS is her description

Great picture for my username! I am Ingrid, 40 years old from berlin. I have an interest in Reich history as my father was Youth Corps and Grandfather was member of the Wehrmacht.

Youth Corps? As Mike Miller said to me - "a bizarre and unique way of describing the H-J"....EXCEPT the Mods have seen it before....

...in one of Paul K. Harker's emails to John Moore!!!

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Hey - why stop when we're on a roll!

Here's a user "Brit_FF", supposedly a UK firefighter. (What IS it with all these capitals??? Is Harker a repressed Grade School teacher???) Anyway...

http://projectgermanveteran.aceboard.co ... Combat.htm

I've heard rumours that towards the end of the war, civil servants were called up as soldiers. This included members of metro police departments, postmen, fire brigades and railway workers. Is there truth to this?

Although London has it's "Metropolitan Police" - it is INVARIABLY shortened to "The Met" here, just like all those British old police dramas you ever watched. "Metro Police" is simply NOT a term used in the UK. That is VERY American.

[phylo_roadking]

Okay, let's change tack now...

HEALTH WARNING - It's about to get VERY tacky!!!

So - to date we have some VERY major questionmarks over the "membership" - now let's look at the CONTENT...

First up is http://projectgermanveteran.aceboard.co ... n-Boat.htm

Does THIS story sound familiar to anyone?

You're both right. Sort of. U-291 damaged the HMS Marion off Gibralter but in 1942. The HMS Marion listed to port side and its crew was rescued by the HMS Dreadnought. No one knows why Kleist didn't finish off the Marion but stories say either he was out of ammo or thought she would sink under her own power.
These vessels met again in the same place in April 1944 and Kleist hit the Marion with a torpdeo near its rudder. Depth charges drove U-291 deep and the battle broke off. Kleist followed U-291 for 2 days and nailed her in a shallow channel. The HMS Marion went down with 23 dead.

No you don't, do you...and I'm not suprised

08.43 - 08.43 8.U-Flottille, Danzig
Ausbildungsboot (under training)

08.43 - 07.44 23.U-Flottille, Danzig
Experimental boat

07.44 - 02.45 21.U-Flottille, Pillau
Schulboot (training boat)

03.45 - 05.45 31.U-Flottille, Wilhelmshaven
Ausbildungsboot (under training )

The U-291 was a training boat, it was NEVER captained by "Wolfram Kleist" AND it NEVER made it into the Med...it spent it's war in the Baltic! Surrendered at Wilhelmshaven at the end of the war, as opposed to

U-291 surrendered off the coast of France in 1945.

AND "HMS MARION" DIDN'T EXIST!!!

There WAS an armed yatch the "Maid Marion" used by the RNVR....but amazingly it made it through the war, as opposed to sinking off Gibraltar. NO other vessel with the name "Marion" in the Royal Navy.

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However.....

THESE two threads need NO explanation....

http://projectgermanveteran.aceboard.co ... vances.htm

http://projectgermanveteran.aceboard.co ... Crimes.htm



I don't know about you - but by now *I* was CERTAINLY starting to see a trend here....

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Take a close look at the Avatar pic for the "Cindy_Panzer" user who asked the question about the U-291 and HMS Marion...see anything familiar???

A while back, when investigating "RJHart" you'll remember I said I found "RJHart", later PROVED to be Harker, hanging round Feldgrau's Photgraphs Section for several hours?

Take a look at viewtopic.php?f=62&t=22477&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=rome, and that nice StuG pic from the middle of Rome, cropped now by the picture limit in the new software - BUT it still appears fullsize if you save it and view it in a pic manipulation program of sort sort...

Now - look at "Cindy_Panzer's" Avatar again..... Notice anything familiar NOW???

[phylo_roadking]

Take a look at THESE again...

http://projectgermanveteran.aceboard.co ... vances.htm

http://projectgermanveteran.aceboard.co ... Crimes.htm

NOW - look at the Sections on Directive 19 and Honor Denied...

I emailed Amazon and told them my husband, a professional military intelligence analyst, found Directive 19 to be authentic, historically accurate and factual

I'm disappointed with what others have said about this book on other web sites. Can anyone tell me why this work would be considered a target for discrediting??

Yes. Because historians and authors have made much monies from the perpetrations lof lies about the SS that made them out to be criminals and crazy psychopaths. Directive 19 paints a portrait of the SS as the men they truly was. They was teachers, educators, philosophers, lawyers, scientists and some of the brightest minds.
It is not easy to conceive that a smart and educated man can do the things like Rolf Schiller did. It is easier believed if we think of the perpetrators as monsters and criminals. Directive 19 provided feelings for the human sides of SS men. Authors who write or wrote similar books do not want this work - a true and accurate work - to discredit their own books. therefore it is easier for them to critisise this book as Directive 19 proves that research by other authors of SS books is thin and weak

Most of these men wished for anonymity following the war and because of the shame associated with their war time actions many of them remained silent. This allowed misconceptions about them to arise without challenge. Men like Schiller challenged those who built the misconceptions and this gave us virtually the first work on record that made us rethink what we know about the SS.

I read this book and found it interesting and educational. Schiller mentions that the Final Solution was expedited due to the Americans getting involved in the war. Is this to say that the war on the Eastern Front did not have any bearing on the speed of the Final Solution?
Schiller also mentioned German plans for the invasion of North America. If Germany was successful and had won the war, do you think Jewish extermination would have remained a Nazi policy or would the ideas of resettlement have been proposed again

To the best of my knowledge the policy of extermination was not wholesale. There were policies in effect that stated a specific number of Jews were marked for liquidation to offset the costs of the war and the expenses of maintaining societies in Germany and Occupied Territories.
Initially this was the goal of the T4 Program. Reich politicians saw it as necessary to liquidate anyone deemed to be a drain on resources and materials.
Liquidating all the Jews was never a formal or serious policy that I know of. A portion of the Jews were to remain as Reich laborers in germany and the Occupied Territories.
I do not believe the extermination would have extended to other continents such as North and South America had Germany won the war. The Nazi Foreign Department sought diligently to resettle the Jews but was deadlocked in negotiations with foreign countries. When it became impossible to move them the next step was liquidating them.
You must consider that if it was the true aim of Hitler to liquidate every Jew in the world, the extermination would have begun in 1933 when Hitler came to power. However, the mass killings did not begin until six years later in 1939. The majority of mass killings also stopped in August 1944. At this time the noticeable reduction in extermination numbers does not as argued by some, coincide with Allied and Russian advances on the camps. The Allies and Russians were still quite a distance from these facilities. But it had been decided in Berlin that Germany reached near its quota for the numbers the Reich wished to liquidate to control the population. Killings were greatly reduced. There is also an argument to be made that the Reich issued the decrees to slow the killings and cease them because the Allied and Russian approaches were inevitable. I do not have facts to support the decisions of the Reich High Command to say more here.
But had Germany won the war and gone on to conquer other continents, resettlement would have been the objective rather than extermination.

Thanks for this Iron Cross. In all my years of reading about the Holocaust and the Reich I never gave thought to something as simple as the 6 year gap you mentioned! This tends to contradict the "efficiency" of the Nazi Party. I mean if that truly was their goal I'd expect it would have gotten under way a lot sooner as you pointed out. Why wait 6 years into your administration and then begin the liquidations? Your point reinforces the idea that the liquidations were a cause and effect of the war in Poland. With all the claptrap out there I just never put these two items together before. Thanks!

Although Hitler did not actually use southern laws as an explicit model for Jewish persecution, he was reported to admire Dixie’s dictates for enforcing day-to-day white supremacy. Hitler believed that the Bill of Rights was irrelevant to American life and that the United States owed its secret strength to state laws that legally institutionalized segregation and oppression. In 1940 he studied the Nazi Heinz Kloss’s survey of racial laws in the United States, Das Volksgruppenrecht in den Vereinigten Staates von Amerika.
According to Kloss, “a unified national America was an illusion”; state legislation had worked to keep races separate and minority groups pure. Others quoted Hitler as believing that America’s national promise had died when the Confederacy lost the Civil War. According to an ex-Nazi’s memoir, Hitler thought that “historical logical and sound sense” dictated that the Confederacy emerge victorious. The Union victory was a perversion of history that left the United States structurally damaged. With Das Volksgruppenrecht, Jewish and African American comparisons came full circle: Nazi Germany held up the U.S. South as a model for its racial persecution. The comparison that many U.S. whites were unwilling to draw, the Nazis drew for them

.......and SO many others....

NOW DO YOU SEE THE SUBTLE UNDERCURRENT?

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Which at last brings me to my personal favourite bit of sh1t from this "forum"... the input from another "expert" - UNchallenged and UNmoderated...

http://projectgermanveteran.aceboard.co ... orship.htm

National Socialism *is* a racial, not a political idea in the ordinary sense. It holdS that the value of any government is determined primarily by its ability to preserve its Aryan citizens against racial and cultural decay. Adolf Hitler was voted into office and subsequently achieved power through the overwhelmingly popular support of the German people. Their own traditions demanded that he rule in a particular fashion. For the Germans, his military-style government was in keeping with their traditions of Bismarck or Frederick the Great. The British feel most comfortable with their parliamentary heritage, and the United States was conceived as a Constitutional Republic. All peoples must be free to determine the type of government which best reflects their unique national character and social issues, which vary from land to land. A "one-size-fits-all democracy" is nothing more than a propaganda ruse to veil the real agendas of tyrants posing as elected representatives.


The goal of the National Socialist Revolution *is* not to overturn these various governments, but to purge them of all their anti-Aryan elements, and re-direct them to the fundamental purpose each share in common; namely, the protection and preservation of the Aryan Race. The dissolution of Western Civilization is in direct proportion to its infection by non-Aryans. Government is, therefore, a means to an end --- a shield over a people’s continued existence. As Adolf Hitler said, "regimes come and go. Race endures

IS??? HOLDS??? PRESENT TENSE???

I NOW know where that came from. Here. Word for Word.

http://www.nazi-lauck-nsdapao.com/nazi.htm

And just look at the front page....http://www.nazi-lauck-nsdapao.com/

Yes, that's right. A "forum member" - on a board full of fake and spurious members that have ALREADY portrayed the SS as nice, touchy-feely, quiche-eating, caring and intelligent New Men.....AND called the extent of the Holocaust into question - is ALSO quoting from a remarkably sick website, the very WORST kind of AMERICAN NEO-NAZI SITE....

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Okay - what's going on here?

Well - MY personal opinion (note the word personal) is the following...

Obviously, given the huge amount of attention given by various "people" on the board to "Directive 19" and "Honor Denied"...

And given the really MAJOR question of how genuine all these members are...

There's an agenda at work here; and it's to advertise/support/back up the two books. Obviously. But there's something ELSE a LOT more subtle at work here.

Remember, "Admin" is Paul K. Harker, and "Director" is his partner Tracy Troiani; and we have several questions over how genuine all thse users are...we've ALREADY seen fake users asking fake experts fake questions about fake events and getting fake answers....

The PERFECT advertsing and corroboration for two books there are MAJOR issues with - a panel of supposed "expert" experts - who are anything but expert, but are all creations of Paul K. Harker...

Remember the fake "RJHart" here on Feldgrau? Remember the fake "Chance" on AHF? Remember the fake US war veteran "J.Tyler" on Amazon? Yes, even down to ALL those Army wives! Who ALL have names with the same syntax and the same phraseology, and ALL use capital letters in the same place in their usernames!!!

And OF COURSE - just like that fake US WWII veteran trotted out on Amazon, noone would EVER think of calling into question the wives of those brave boys fighting in the Middle East for our freedoms, would they? If they're FAKES, of course we would. THAT is potentially almost SICKER than touchy-feely intellectual and nice guy Rolf Otto Schiller...

(...and quite remarkably - 7736 posts in just two months on their private section of the board, yet none of these "army wives" have had ANYTHING to say to each other for the 48 hours I've now been watching that board. Cat got your tongue, girls?...)

***I've had this in preparation for some time now - make that THREE DAYS...***

It's beautiful. A BRILLIANT idea. The perfect WHITEWASH....but for what??? What's REALLY being whitewashed here?

Remember some of the comments in various discussions on the Net about Karl von Metzger, the protagonist of "Honor Denied?" a Waffen-SS radio operator who...didn't know what the Einsatzgruppen did??? Who was told and believed that they did security checks and kept road junctions in rear areas and occupied towns open???

Remember what you've just read on ProjectGermanVeteran - SOME OF IT IN "ADMIN'S" OWN WORDS - that Rolf Otto Schiller of "Directive 19" was "a smart and educated man", and members of the SS who expedited the Holocaust were "teachers, educators, philosophers, lawyers, scientists and some of the brightest minds"??? That they were NOT "criminals and crazy psychopaths" - it was all "lies" perpetrated by historians and authors after the war?

Remember what you've just been told about the Holocaust? "The Final Solution was expedited due to the Americans getting involved in the war"??? That "the policy of extermination was not wholesale"??? That "liquidating all the Jews was never a formal or serious policy"???

***Remember too that the website OWNER and author of "Directive 19" wants a discussion on the GOOD THINGS got from medical experiments in concentration camps?***

....Remember too that there's a SERIOUS probability that the VAST majority - if not ALL - of what you're reading has been written by one man and his partner - a man who reads AND QUOTES UNCHALLENGED from THIS website???

http://www.nazi-lauck-nsdapao.com/

To quote V for Vendetta again - "I've told you what I know..."

It's not Christmas yet, but...Do you see what I see?

...Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury, it's time to retire and consider your verdict...

[John P. Moore]

Phylo - I looked around Harker's Web site a few days ago as well as the commentary posted on Amazon regarding his books. I'm in agreement with your conclusions and have to add that Harker has to be a real sicko.

John

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A few more personal observations...

There HAVE to be some real people on there; the site has been in exsitence for three months. AGAINST that however has to be set - two members at least have APPARENTLY been deleted for calling "Directive 19" and Honor Denied" fakes...and MY account - yes, I signed up to see what would happen - WAS indeed deleted after 24 hours without a single word of explanation - and WITHOUT ME POSTING A SINGLE WORD ON THE SITE!

Looks like a blanket policy of deleting people who's faces don't fit...

I DID wonder about the 7736 posts in the "closed" Private Wives Forum....until I turned on the radio this AM here in the UK; and one of those Nigerian Internet fraud gangs has been busted...Apart from anything else - the gang was sending up to TWENTY-FIVE THOUSAND EMAILS - A DAY!!! So yes - THIS level of work CAN be done by individuals or a very small group - especially over a threee month period...

...after all, that section of the Board IS closed, so we don't really know what's in there....

OR- DO WE???

Here's a parable.

Look at the Index Page. See the Section marked "Suggestions for Improvement"? With SIX posts in it??? Click here...

http://projectgermanveteran.aceboard.co ... rators.htm

NOW how many do you see?

One.....

And it's not the ONLY part of the board like that. So naturally I'm wondering if there really ARE 7736 posts in there...

[stcamp]

Well, I am thrilled. Unfortunately I just can't find my "ilk." Is that like posse or a crew? Do we all get to wear the same t-shirts? Well, I for one am not going to cry over spilt ilk.

Steve Campbell

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Here's another trend for you all to ponder...take a look at

http://projectgermanveteran.aceboard.co ... ritain.htm

A question asked - and answered in detail by FOUR separate users, ALL singing from the same hymnbook (ON A BLEEDIN' FORUM??? ) - which THUS establishes FOUR separate "names" as supposed experts and authorities.

However - look carefully - ALL FOUR POSTS are very visibly similar..remarkably so...in phraseology and syntax; almost as if all four are written by the same person, rather than four separate people with different styles of writing, spelling and punctuation!!!

And there are MANY threads like that. The story back up this thread about the U-291 vs. HMS Marion? That's another one. FOUR MORE separate "users" talking in knowledgeable terms ABOUT SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN TO A SHIP THAT DIDN'T EXIST...

The "names" are all racking up; that's ANOTHER EIGHT AT LEAST to add to the list of VERY questionable "members"...

[John P. Moore]

I believe that if someone were to simply post a link to Harker's Web site on the Directive 19 discussion on Amazon that Harker's Hoax will go up in smoke. It's not to difficult for people to draw negative conclusions from Harker's site. I imagine that the JDL could have some fun with him too over the Schiller business and the Holocaust references on his site.

John