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- Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:17 am
- Forum: Campaigns and Battles
- Topic: Hitler's Moscow order
- Replies: 175
- Views: 79565
Spares
Hi Phylo,in reply to your post.'French factories were busy converting....for german designs' I dont think so! French production was not converted until 43 and 44 when Speer harnessed all european industry for the war effort.And in his book Speer makes it plain that French industry,especially,was to ...
- Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:50 pm
- Forum: Campaigns and Battles
- Topic: Hitler's Moscow order
- Replies: 175
- Views: 79565
Flanks
Hi Jason,in reply to your post.Volume 4 of Germany in the 2nd world war??? Yeah?Who wrote that?In regards to 'defending' this front you talk about,well Guderian did not think it was the most SERIOUS issue in early august.He acknowledged that there were concerns,but in his aug 23rd conference with Hi...
- Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:17 pm
- Forum: Campaigns and Battles
- Topic: Hitler's Moscow order
- Replies: 175
- Views: 79565
Soviet Archives
Hi Osterhase,in reply to your post.Soviet archives???Specifically which information in these 'archives' are we to bring to the discussion here?I keep hearing about 'new' info from these 'sources',but I am still waiting to see it.As for the importance of Moscow logistically??? The LARGEST mashalling ...
- Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:27 pm
- Forum: Campaigns and Battles
- Topic: Hitler's Moscow order
- Replies: 175
- Views: 79565
Gomel
Hi Jason,in reply to your post.I would encourage you to do the same as Osterhase.If you have a fact based argument to present about why Stolfi's work is wrong,then lets hear it.But a nebulous dismissal of the whole thing based on opinions does not really hold much water,so please present your case.N...
- Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:07 pm
- Forum: Campaigns and Battles
- Topic: Hitler's Moscow order
- Replies: 175
- Views: 79565
Logistics
Hi Osterhase, in reply to your post.OK,I have looked again at chapter 11 again,and unless you can show exactly which facts you are unhappy with,I will continue to question your dismissal of it.You have talked about the use of captured motor transport.Yes they used a lot of it,but to suggest that it ...
- Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:03 pm
- Forum: Campaigns and Battles
- Topic: Hitler's Moscow order
- Replies: 175
- Views: 79565
Stolfi
Hi Osterhase.In reply to your post, " I feel Stolfi has done a lot of damage to our understanding of Barbarossa...." Well, I do not accept your broad brush stoke dismissal of Stolfi based on some loose idea about mathematics .You are going to have to do better than that.Give me the facts a...
- Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:44 pm
- Forum: Campaigns and Battles
- Topic: Hitler's Moscow order
- Replies: 175
- Views: 79565
Operations
Hi Qvist,in reply to your post of 09/01/07............ "There is no meaningful response to any point I have made here"????? How about we go back to the original point in question and follow the logic of it. <...>a]I posted a comment of Manstein where he stated that using mobile operations,...
- Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:04 pm
- Forum: Campaigns and Battles
- Topic: Hitler's Moscow order
- Replies: 175
- Views: 79565
Intent
Hi Osterhase,in reply to your post of 08/01/07.Thank you for all the info-very interesting,and correct.I do have 2 questions about the 'commanders intent' though.<.......> 1]Did Hitler follow his 'intent'[rapid campaign] in the rest of the document FD21? No,he did not.He talks of halting the most po...
- Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:45 pm
- Forum: Campaigns and Battles
- Topic: Hitler's Moscow order
- Replies: 175
- Views: 79565
4th Panzer
Hi Imad,yes you are right.Hitler changed the whole basis of OP BLUE from the start. 4th panzer was supposed to give left flank protection for 6th army from around Kharkov,down the west bank of the Don to it's final objective-Stalingrad.This way stalingrad could have been taken easily in July.But Hit...
- Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:44 pm
- Forum: Campaigns and Battles
- Topic: Hitler's Moscow order
- Replies: 175
- Views: 79565
Operators
Hi Qvist,by 'operators' do you mean the professionally trained,highly experienced staff and field officers who had led the german army to total military dominance in Europe?Are those the guys that you are talking about?I think you said it right when you wrote that their opinions should carry 'some w...
- Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:12 pm
- Forum: Campaigns and Battles
- Topic: Hitler's Moscow order
- Replies: 175
- Views: 79565
Halder's operators
Hi Qvist.In reply to your post,I thought I would start with the full text of Halder's diary quote from July 3rd.Here it is.<..........>"Looked at overall we can already say that we have carried out our job of smashing the bulk of the Russian army this side of the Duna and Dnieper.I believe that...
- Mon Jan 01, 2007 9:10 pm
- Forum: Campaigns and Battles
- Topic: Von Paulus
- Replies: 17
- Views: 10448
Paulus
Hi Jaywol,from what I have read Paulus was highly regarded for his staff work,and he was well liked by his fellow officers.He was elevated to the command of 6th Army after von Reichenua had a heart attack in early 42.The counter attack against Timoshenko around Kharkov was mainly Von Bock's doing,I ...
- Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:04 pm
- Forum: Campaigns and Battles
- Topic: Hitler's Moscow order
- Replies: 175
- Views: 79565
Manstein
Hi Qvist.To your post. "......If you are determined to convince yourself that only Hitler's ignorance stood in the way of Halder blitzing the entire Soviet war economy out of existence in August by taking Moscow........." Is THAT the assertion that I have made??!! WOW! Halder would 'blitz ...
- Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:56 pm
- Forum: Campaigns and Battles
- Topic: Hitler's Moscow order
- Replies: 175
- Views: 79565
The rules
Hi Qvist.Further to your post. Hitler's flank concerns.Yes,he did have concerns about the flanks,because as an untrained amateur,he did not have a clue as to what he was talking about.To quote halder again, " the Fuhrer is meddling in areas that he simply does not understand'. Guderian on Aug21...
- Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:57 pm
- Forum: Campaigns and Battles
- Topic: Hitler's Moscow order
- Replies: 175
- Views: 79565
FD21
Hi Qvist. To your post. 'the primary objective of both was the destruction of the red army in western Russia' No,it was not! In FD21,this was mentioned under 1.General Intention - The specifics and primary objective[in HITLER'S view] is under 111.Conduct of operations A[Army] - '....strong mobile fo...