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Not in every case. But if the above is accurate why didn't the Germans try to break out of Stalingrad or succeed in the Battle of the Bulge? Certainly doesn't help to be out of ammo, or fuel, of food for that matter. Even worse to be out of all of them. Fortunately , that was not the situation in 1...

Fortunately , that was not the situation in 1941. There would not be more than the normal problems caused by an advance in depth. ... Hand waving you are good at that I'll admit. It's not "normal" to start and advance in depth with your railheads as few and as far away as they were at the...

You are the one that does not know what he is talking about as you seem to think that there is a sort of magic amount of ammo minimally needed . Nothing "magic" about it. There is clearly a bottom limit below which a world war 2 division was simply not capable of operating effectively. As...

... Incorrect. You would never be able to quantify what an adequate supply is. But of course you can. There are only averages from real operations and these also sometimes more reflect what was available, if only because you cannot consume more than is produced. Which is only relevant to the topic ...

They may or may not have but they were hardly the only units involved were they? And what did they carry 3days worth of supply? Even if more they may not have known what thier log strcucture would look like in a week or two. You seriously underestimate what a chief of staff of a unit knows about al...

julian wrote:They could certainly attack with more prospect of success than in the more unfavorable period because of bad weather.

Could they? That very much would depend on the state of the unit(s) involved, the weather, the terrain etc. Overly general statments like the above are seldom correct.

???? You have either left out the majority of your argument or there is nothing to it. The whole logistical argument is implicitly based on an assumption that going on the offensive would mean substantial more consumption than on the defensive and that the alleged minimum requirement was not there ...

julian wrote:The logistical argument fails already because the difference between ammo usage in offense and defense is less than one would think. The difference is more between types of defensive and offensive fighting.

???? You have either left out the majority of your argument or there is nothing to it.

... Nonsense. If it was possible in october, it was certainly also possible end august/september. Where was the Ost Heer ata the end of August as opposed to the end of September? For that matter the end of July? Take a look at their positions and what was happening in those months and it's clear it...

It would be lovely if commanders always had the ideal level of supply but the real world is not like that. There is a difference between "ideal", "like to have", and "required. ... Not having all the quantity of ammo,fuel,etc... one would like to have will not stop operatio...

If you commit to an operation that has insufficient logistical support you will be lucky if all that happens is you fall short of your objectives. If you are not lucky your over extended forces are likely to suffer severe reversals. In the real world, logistical issues are a fact of life and you ne...

Logistics are an inhibiting factor, nothing more. Logistical issues will not stop an operation from being done. Decisions have to be judged with the information available then. Going for Moscow in august made sense given the weather factor which limited the length of the campaign season. If you com...

It will be difficult to anybody that will say that Guderian invented the theory of armored warfare. Yet I have seen it stated on a number of forums by a number of posters. So there is no myth to be refuted Your opinion does not appear to correlate with reality. and trying to put out that Guderian o...

Guderian may not have single handedly invented the BLITZKRIEG but if there had been more leaders like him (& they were allowed to actually have some free reign in running the war, instead of it being run by the Lance Corporal & military ignoramus Hitler), things may have turned out a little...

.... I like the Japanese approach to inmates where talking is restricted and that they must cut their hair very short. So someone that hasn't been convicted of a crime is forced to cut their hair and their ability to communicate is severlly curtailed? The idea of unheated cells, something that Amne...