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by mellenthin
Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:17 pm
Forum: Removed Threads
Topic: Was Dresden a mistake?
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Re: Was Dresden a mistake?

Are you seriousky trying to make me believe that Dresden needed to be firebombed just to hinder(not stop because that would not be possible) troop movements behind a sector of the eastern front? No, not "just" - no matter what you choose to call it those industries/factories were still th...
by mellenthin
Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:09 pm
Forum: Removed Threads
Topic: Was Dresden a mistake?
Replies: 63
Views: 25535

Re: Was Dresden a mistake?

] In the future, pleae avoid "peekaboo" referencing. What you SHOULD have said is Additional Protocol I of 1977, Article 51, Part 5(a) 5. Among others, the following types of attacks are to be considered as indiscriminate: (a) an attack by bombardment by any methods or means which treats ...
by mellenthin
Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:59 am
Forum: Removed Threads
Topic: Was Dresden a mistake?
Replies: 63
Views: 25535

Re: Was Dresden a mistake?

the difference between the US Airforce bombing practices and that of the RAF is welknown to any informed person. I know they are. That is why I posted the facts from these 'informed persons' Hopefully this information may help educate educate the 'not so well informed persons' as to their errors. I...
by mellenthin
Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:55 am
Forum: Removed Threads
Topic: Was Dresden a mistake?
Replies: 63
Views: 25535

Re: Was Dresden a mistake?

The only important movement from west to east was the movement of the 6th SS Panzer army(a wellknown fact of history to any ww2 fan) and that had already taken place and did not move over Dresden. Actually, the movement of this army proved that you need much more than destroy one railhub to make mo...
by mellenthin
Fri Nov 11, 2011 11:42 am
Forum: Removed Threads
Topic: Was Dresden a mistake?
Replies: 63
Views: 25535

Re: Was Dresden a mistake?

Ill informed bicycle riding posters with agendas are the problem. You can try to change history but the difference between the US Airforce bombing practices and that of the RAF is welknown to any informed person. It is a subject about which I say nothing new. Actually,I have made much less nasty co...
by mellenthin
Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:34 am
Forum: Removed Threads
Topic: Was Dresden a mistake?
Replies: 63
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Re: Was Dresden a mistake?

2) Precision bombardments were done by the US Airforce and they certainly kill less civilians than an area attack 7) The attacks specifically directed against marshalling yards would never kill the amount of people as in Dresden The US AAF did do area/'terror' bombing. They just used the term 'Mars...
by mellenthin
Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:30 am
Forum: Removed Threads
Topic: Was Dresden a mistake?
Replies: 63
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Re: Was Dresden a mistake?

Anybody reading up on the raid on Dresden (on the internet and in books)will quickly notice that the decisionmaking process leading to it did not mention the military targets within the city(except its role as a transport hub). It was mainly about shattering morale and creating chaos. That is also v...
by mellenthin
Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:15 am
Forum: Removed Threads
Topic: Was Dresden a mistake?
Replies: 63
Views: 25535

Re: Was Dresden a mistake?

In addition, there was no important movement from the western front to the eastern front through Dresden that absolutely had to be stopped. That is an invention. Kindly prove that with sources . Remember - and all posters have ALREADY been warned - there is a VERY different standard of evidence req...
by mellenthin
Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:01 am
Forum: Removed Threads
Topic: Was Dresden a mistake?
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Re: Was Dresden a mistake?

phylo_roadking wrote: Kindly prove with references to convention-establishing legal cases and international treaties that this is in fact true.
Simply,google on the conventions of Geneva ,particularly protocol I of 1977 and you will will learn quickly that area bombing is illegal now.
by mellenthin
Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:56 am
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Topic: Was Dresden a mistake?
Replies: 63
Views: 25535

Re: Was Dresden a mistake?

1) that this type of raids is illegal today ,is irrelevant:today PC is reigning 2) there was no possibility in WWII to choose between a precise bombardment,and area bombings:both could result in massive civilian losses 3) No one did care about enemy civilian losses :you can't wage war without killi...
by mellenthin
Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:45 pm
Forum: Removed Threads
Topic: Was Dresden a mistake?
Replies: 63
Views: 25535

Re: Was Dresden a mistake?

Strange that - given that in 1944, the German Army High Command's Weapons Office listed 127 medium-to-large factories and workshops that were supplying the army with material. And I take it you missed the bit at the start of the thread about there being barracks, hutted camps, and a munitions stora...
by mellenthin
Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:14 am
Forum: Removed Threads
Topic: Was Dresden a mistake?
Replies: 63
Views: 25535

Re: Was Dresden a mistake?

There is a massive difference between a, attack against a point target of military importance within a city and a terror attack where you intend to cause massive firezs all over a city as in Dresden. .... Of course there is a difference. That doesn't make either one neccessarily a mistake or a war ...
by mellenthin
Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:56 pm
Forum: Removed Threads
Topic: Was Dresden a mistake?
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Re: Was Dresden a mistake?

Hans wrote:Mellenthin,

"Practice" is spot on. Pity YOU in the WEST can't get it right.

- Hans
The practice of precision guided munitions works extremely well. Point targets are taken out with the minimum of collateral damage.
by mellenthin
Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:10 pm
Forum: Removed Threads
Topic: Was Dresden a mistake?
Replies: 63
Views: 25535

Re: Was Dresden a mistake?

Protests ? What protests ?Maybe from people who were disappointed that no more Germans were killed? 8) And,why should any one protest? Public opinion did not care about Dresden (if people knew about the existence of the city) I know of 2 protests:bishop Bell and R.Stokes(a labour MP) First putting ...
by mellenthin
Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:43 am
Forum: Removed Threads
Topic: Was Dresden a mistake?
Replies: 63
Views: 25535

Re: Was Dresden a mistake?

... A city as such is not a military target. It may or may not be depending on just what's in it. Certain installations are. They can be but if there is a broad military presence in the city there becomes little difference between "certain installations" and the city as a whole. The raid ...